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[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-14-2014

Quote:War Declarations Repeal Act

 

 
Whereas the Assembly of The South Pacific previously passed the following declarations of war:
  • Declaration of War against the GGR, 04 June 2012,
  • Declaration of War against Gatesville, 03 July 2013;
Whereas there has been no significant action, to date, in furtherance of either war, due to the presence of active Founders in both regions preventing meaningful military action against them, the collapse of activity within these regions' governments and populaces, and the decline in inter-regional relevance of both regions;

 
Whereas the circumstances that led to the Declaration of War against Gatesville have changed dramatically since that declaration was passed, the Kemetic Republic of Osiris has been dissolved, and Osiris is no longer at war with Gatesville Inc;

 
Whereas the Osiris Fraternal Order, the successor government to the Kemetic Republic, has admitted Treize Dreizehn and Durkadurkiranistan II as citizens and as members of its regional legislature, despite these individuals' cooperation with Nevadar of Gatesville to maintain The Dourian Embassy as the rogue Delegate of Osiris in July 2013;

 
Whereas declarations of war are not necessary to pursue direct military action against The Greater German Reich or Gatesville Inc or disruption of their military actions against other regions;

 
Whereas a state of war should only be maintained against another region in the most severe circumstances and for the most serious of reasons; and

 
Whereas the Assembly of The South Pacific does not believe such severe circumstances and serious reasons exist any longer in relation to The Greater German Reich and Gatesville Inc, rendering a legal state of war unnecessary;

 

Therefore, let it be:

 
Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific continues to condemn and oppose the insidious and hateful ideologies espoused by The Greater German Reich and other Nazi and fascist regions;

 
Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific continues to condemn the violations of Feeder and Sinker sovereignty perpetrated by Gatesville throughout its history, and will continue to oppose such aggression by Gatesville Inc against Feeder and Sinker communities in the future;

 
Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific continues to encourage direct military action against The Greater German Reich and Gatesville Inc, and disruption of their military actions against other regions;

 
Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific mandates that the Coalition of The South Pacific and its military forces will continue to honor the commitments made through the Coalition against the Greater German Reich treaty until such a time as that treaty is repealed;

Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific hereby designates The Greater German Reich and Gatesville Inc as Prohibited Groups under Article 9 of the Code of Laws; and

 
Resolved that the Assembly of The South Pacific hereby repeals Declaration of War against the GGR and Declaration of War against Gatesville in their entirety.
 
 

I think this is fairly straightforward. We have two war declarations on the books that aren't being executed in any meaningful way, largely because they can't be executed against foundered regions: a declaration of war against GGR that gives it unnecessary attention and status in our law when it can be effectively opposed without such attention and status, and a declaration of war against Gatesville Inc when most of the rest of NationStates, including Osiris, have now completely moved on.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Belschaft - 03-14-2014

It should also be noted that the war against the GGR has been largely fought to conclusion, with the region all but destroyed, and that GV is increasingly inactive to the point of being defunct.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Horse - 03-14-2014

I like it Big Grin


[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Unibot - 03-14-2014

This is smart. Well-written.


[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-15-2014

Quote:It should also be noted that the war against the GGR has been largely fought to conclusion, with the region all but destroyed, and that GV is increasingly inactive to the point of being defunct.
 

I wasn't sure if you meant this should be noted in the legislation, or just noted in general, but I did add language related to this to the second Whereas clause anyway.



[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Sandaoguo - 03-16-2014

The Declaration of War on Gatesville did more than declare war. It put PNG status on Douria and Nevadar, and enacts diplomatic sanctions on those that support Nevadar and Gatesville. How would those things be impacted, here?




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-16-2014

Quote:The Declaration of War on Gatesville did more than declare war. It put PNG status on Douria and Nevadar, and enacts diplomatic sanctions on those that support Nevadar and Gatesville. How would those things be impacted, here?
 

They would be repealed. The Vice Delegate can still deny citizenship to both of them, though. Regarding the diplomatic sanctions, I think it's wise to repeal those. Not everyone in NationStates is going to continue refusing to work with Gatesville, should they ever even become active again, because of something that happened in Osiris nine months ago that Osiris itself no longer cares about. And what constitutes this "support"? We have friends and allies that still have open diplomatic relations with Gatesville. Is that "support"?




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Belschaft - 03-16-2014

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The Declaration of War on Gatesville did more than declare war. It put PNG status on Douria and Nevadar, and enacts diplomatic sanctions on those that support Nevadar and Gatesville. How would those things be impacted, here?
 

They would be repealed. The Vice Delegate can still deny citizenship to both of them, though. Regarding the diplomatic sanctions, I think it's wise to repeal those. Not everyone in NationStates is going to continue refusing to work with Gatesville, should they ever even become active again, because of something that happened in Osiris nine months ago that Osiris itself no longer cares about. And what constitutes this "support"? We have friends and allies that still have open diplomatic relations with Gatesville. Is that "support"?

 

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It would be a relatively simple matter to place both groups on the Prohibited list.



[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-17-2014

I was about to motion to vote, but I would like to hear from the Delegate, more of the Cabinet, and some other Assembly members before doing so. This is a fairly significant issue and while I think it's in the region's best interests to repeal these war declarations, I would rather not move forward with it without broad consensus. War isn't really something the region should be divided on.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Sandaoguo - 03-17-2014

The majority of the Cabinet supports this repeal. (4 out of 6 voiced support; 2 have not yet commented). However, a couple of us still believe that PNG status for Nevadar is a necessity.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Belschaft - 03-17-2014

Quote:The majority of the Cabinet supports this repeal. (4 out of 6 voiced support; 2 have not yet commented). However, a couple of us still believe that PNG status for Nevadar is a necessity.
It would be simple for the Cabinet to request Article 9 designation for Gatesville.


[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-18-2014

In that case I would like to hold off on voting on this until the vote on Article 9 concludes. That way we can be sure that if we repeal these war declarations, we can immediately move to designating Gatesville a Prohibited Group.

 

Edit: Actually, once Article 9 passes we could do that in this repeal resolution, could we not?




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Belschaft - 03-18-2014

Hmm... Theoretically, yes. Depends if the CoA allows it .


[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Punk D - 03-18-2014

Efficiency...I like it.

 

I think if we are not actively looking to send troops to GGR or Gatesville it makes sense to repeal the war declaration. 

 

Article 9 would seem to suit our overall attitude towards the now seriously isolated Gatesville.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Rebel-topia - 03-18-2014

Quote:In that case I would like to hold off on voting on this until the vote on Article 9 concludes. That way we can be sure that if we repeal these war declarations, we can immediately move to designating Gatesville a Prohibited Group.

 

Edit: Actually, once Article 9 passes we could do that in this repeal resolution, could we not?
 

Since Gatesville is already a PG, then I see no issue with adding a clause stating that they will stay a PG after the repeal.



[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Southern Bellz - 03-18-2014

I am still talking to the cabinet about this. I humbly request the assembly to take it's time bringing this to vote.


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[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Cormac - 03-19-2014

Not a problem. As said earlier, I would like to at least wait until Article 9 passes.

 

I've also added a clause that would designate GGR and Gatesville as Prohibited Groups, though if I'm reading Article 9 correctly we will need either the Cabinet or CSS (or both) to request such a designation once Article 9 passes.




[Draft] War Declarations Repeal Act - Geomania - 03-20-2014

This ties up loose ends. I'm fine with it.