Article 3: Expulsion

[Todd McCloud]

This is the current Article for expulsion or loss of citizenship from TSP, taken verbatim from the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showtopic=8043'>Charter</a>:

<strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>Article 3 - Reasons for Expulsion</em></strong>

Any nation may be expelled from the organization and/or the region according to the methods outlined in <strong class='bbc'>Article 4</strong> if guilty of the following:



1. In violation of the regulations in <strong class='bbc'>Article 2</strong>.



2. Plans to purposely violate regulations in <strong class='bbc'>Article 2</strong> in the future.



3. Violating any of the rules in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=24'>Code of Laws</a> for the region.



4. Violating any of the rules of <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net'>NationStates</a> as written in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/pages/legal.html'>Terms & Conditions of Use</a>, <a class='bbc_url' href='http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023'>Nationstates One Stop Rules Shop</a> and <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=faq'>Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)</a> when interacting on the regional message board of The South Pacific and when corresponding with other citizens of the South Pacific via telegram.



5. Violating the Invisionfree Terms of Use when interacting on the Invisionfree forums

Please state your opinion on this article, including any revisions you would like to see. You may also argue over the necessity of said article and any other directions this article should take.



Discussion for this article will end on <strong class='bbc'>Wednesday, October 20th</strong>, or on a later date if the Minister of Region determines the debate to require more time.

[Todd McCloud]

Here's what I've proposed for #3:

<em class='bbc'>Article 3 - Reasons for Expulsion</em>[/b]

Any nation may be expelled from the <del>organization</del> coalition, the forums, and/or the region according to the methods outlined in <strong class='bbc'>Article 4</strong> if guilty of the following:



1. <del>In violation of</del> Violating, or is found to have planned to purposely violate, the regulations in <strong class='bbc'>Article 2</strong>.



2. <del>Plans to purposely violate regulations in <strong class='bbc'>Article 2</strong> in the future.</del>



3. Violating any of the rules in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=24'>Code of Laws</a> <del>for the region.</del>



4. Violating any of the rules of <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net'>NationStates</a> <del>as written in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/pages/legal.html'>Terms & Conditions of Use</a>,</del> <a class='bbc_url' href='http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20659'><del>Nationstates One Stop Rules Shop</del> rules</a> <del>and <a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=faq'>Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)</a> when interacting on the regional message board of The South Pacific and when corresponding with other citizens of the South Pacific via telegram.</del>



5. Violating the Invisionfree Terms of Use <del>when interacting on the Invisionfree forums</del>

1 and 2 can be grouped together. The law links for NS are outdated, and have now been updated. Really, pretty much everything regarding NS rules is in that thread these days, so I think we will be safe to just include that. We shouldn?t need to characterize where they violate the rules, but that they in fact have.

<strong class='bbc'>Article 3 - Reasons for Expulsion</strong>

Any nation may be expelled from the coalition, the forums, and/or the region according to the methods outlined in <strong class='bbc'>Article 4</strong> if guilty of the following:[*:30a6sspk] Violating, or is found to have planned to purposely violate, the regulations in <strong class='bbc'>Article 2</strong>.







[*:30a6sspk] Violating any of the rules in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=24'>Code of Laws</a> .







[*:30a6sspk] Violating any of the rules of  <a class='bbc_url' href='http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20659'>NationStates rules</a>.







[*:30a6sspk] Violating the Invisionfree Terms of Use.

[Guest]

We had specifically put the sphere of influence in there, because the charter was deemed to be valid both on the RMB and here. The invisionfree Terms of Use do not apply to the RMB, and the NS rules cannot be applied here. Even though you probably have to be quite inventive to get away with something on the RMB that would be prohibited by the invisionfree terms of use, you still should get away with it as the invisionfree ToU have no jurisdiction on the RMB, and vv. So I would like to see that back in, please.The merger of 1+2 is fine with me.

[kloister]

I agree with the changes that Tsrill mentions and the reasoning for it...I would then be in favour of the amendments...

[Todd McCloud]

Something like this?

<strong class='bbc'>Article 3 - Reasons for Expulsion</strong>

Any nation may be expelled from the coalition, the forums, and/or the region according to the methods outlined in Article 4 if guilty of the following:

[*:1ag06ple]Violating, or is found to have planned to purposely violate, the regulations in Article 2.





[*:1ag06ple] Violating any of the rules in the <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showforum=24'>Code of Laws</a> .





[*:1ag06ple] Violating any of the rules of  <a class='bbc_url' href='http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=20659'>NationStates rules</a> for the in-game environment.





[*:1ag06ple]Violating the Invisionfree Terms of Use for the forum environment.

[Guest]

I wanted to say, why not leave the regional message board in there? Until I realized that it is called civil headquarters these days, even though nobody uses the term. Since both will lead to confusion maybe in-game environment isn't so bad. Maybe put NationStates in there, it may be obvious but sometimes you can't be obvious enough...



EDIT oh and there is a redundant "rules" in "violating any of <del>the rules of</del> NationStates rules for the <strong class='bbc'>NationStates</strong> in-game environment"

[Todd McCloud]

With respect to the RMB, I think that's covered mostly by article II (threat, harassment, abuse, etc). With respect to spammers, we don't have regulations on those guys, but perhaps that would be something the assembly could hash out. It would give them something to do.Also, removed the redundancy