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Regional Holidays
#1
I've been (with the assistance of Elu and Asta) researching the early history of TSP, trying to find out a couple of specific dates; namely when we first adopted the Charter, and when we gained independence from the Atlantic Central Command (a raider group that controlled TSP back in 2003). These haven't be easy to find as they are back in 2003, and the first TSP forums no longer exist, but I've been able to narrow them down.



I do not believe that it is possible to find the date for the original adoption of the Charter - I know it was created under Goddessness in June 2003, on the Killer Monkey forums, but as these forums no longer exist I can not find the date. I believe they went down sometime on July 3rd or 4th 2003, necessitating the creation of our previous forums. References in early threads there are made to the previous forums and the charter being taken from there. As such I'm substituting the date Goddessness gained the delegacy for this, as she led our first government and oversaw the adoption of the regional charter.



As such, I propose June the 2nd, the day she took the delegacy, be adopted as <em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>Coalition Day</strong></em>, celebrating the creation of the Charter, the government, and the Coalition.



Second to this, I propose that we adopt the anniversary of Lady Rebels taking the delegacy, sometime between the 18th and 23rd of July 2003, as Independence Day. Having done so, and despite being a member of ACC, she refused to fly the ACC flag over the region as it had been before the anarchy surrounding the XYZ affair. She went on to lead the region into full independence, and oversaw the completion of the work begun under Goddessness and Monkey Killer when they created the regional government and the Charter. I have TG'd her asking if she has a more precise date, but in the meantime my suspected date will suffice.



As such, I propose July the 20th be adopted as <em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>Independence Day</strong></em>, celebrating the regions freedom and the beginning of an independent TSP outside of UCR control.



I'm posting this now so that if anyone knows where we can find more precise dates we can do so, ready for the <em class='bbc'>ten year</em> anniversary of both The Coalition and our independence. We are the longest running government in the GCR's, and possibly all of nationstates. We have been under the Charter, modified over the years, since June 2003. Since our independence in July 2003, the region has been out of our hands for a mere 36 hours. These are facts worthy of celebration, and regional holidays to do so should be established.





<strong class='bbc'>Refernces</strong>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://web.archive.org/web/20030623152535/http://thesouthpacific.host.sk/modules.php?name=Forums'>http://web.archive.org/web/20030623152535/http://thesouthpacific.host.sk/modules.php?name=Forums</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://web.archive.org/web/20030713195504/http://www.thesouthpacific.host.sk/'>http://web.archive.org/web/20030713195504/http://www.thesouthpacific.host.sk/</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://web.archive.org/web/20030625163353/http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=the_south_pacific'>http://web.archive.org/web/20030625163353/http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_region/region=the_south_pacific</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/history.aspx?region=The+South+Pacific&type=Exact&group=region&start=&end='>http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/history.aspx?region=The+South+Pacific&type=Exact&group=region&start=&end=</a>]

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://s2.zetaboards.com/theSPacific/topic/947560/1/'>http://s2.zetaboards.com/theSPacific/topic/947560/1/</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Goddessness'>http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Goddessness</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=LadyRebels'>http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=LadyRebels</a>

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://z13.invisionfree.com/Lone_Wolves_United/index.php?showtopic=191'>http://z13.invisionfree.com/Lone_Wolves_United/index.php?showtopic=191</a>
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#2
As an addendum to this, May 24th (the anniversary of the end of Sedge's 36 hours long Devonitians coup) should be adopted as <em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>Liberation Day</strong></em>.
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#3
I'm in favor of this, and I thought about making the day of our liberation a holiday as well.
#4
Works for me! I know LR has been MIA for about a month now. If I see her soon, Ill send her your way, Bel Smile
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#5
No holiday regarding Jonson's first involvement? Tongue
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#6
Quote:No holiday regarding Jonson's first involvement? Tongue
I lol'd.
#7
Quote:No holiday regarding Jonson's first involvement? Tongue
Never Tongue

Though maybe one for the day when the write in votes finally see him elected craziest.
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#8
If we have holidays, are we gonna have days of mournin', too?

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#9
Another one to add would be <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>Foundation Day</em></strong>, if anyone can remember what date Max added multiple feeders.



Edit: April 29th look like the probable date.
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#10
Motion to vote?
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#11
We will actually need a formal proposal on this.
#12
Indeed. Bels, as its yours, do you want to do the honours? I'll put something together if you like.
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#13
Maybe hold off until the end of the week and just add to the omnibus bill? Or is this just going to be a law?
#14
As I can't see anyone having major objections, I'd pass it as a separate act; that way you avoid the risk of losing it if the Omnibus fails.
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#15
*bumping this up to remind himself to draft it*
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Quote:Another one to add would be <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>Foundation Day</em></strong>, if anyone can remember what date Max added multiple feeders.



Edit: April 29th look like the probable date.
<a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/HISTORY'>It appears to be April 3rd, to me?</a>



What are these holidays envisioned as? A mention in the WFE? Or is there supposed to be some kind of event? If it is the latter, these all happen in the span of 3-4 months.
#17
Quote:<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="Belschaft">Another one to add would be <strong class='bbc'><em class='bbc'>Foundation Day</em></strong>, if anyone can remember what date Max added multiple feeders.



Edit: April 29th look like the probable date.
<a class='bbc_url' href='http://www.nationstates.net/HISTORY'>It appears to be April 3rd, to me?</a>



What are these holidays envisioned as? A mention in the WFE? Or is there supposed to be some kind of event? If it is the latter, these all happen in the span of 3-4 months.
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I'm not entirely sure. I'd certainly add them to the forum calender, and some kind of celebration would be great.



And I can't really help that all the significant events happened in a four month slot Tongue
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#18
Oh, I read Apr 03 wrong. TongueNo, I know the dates can't be changed. Just wondering what the goal was.
#19
Good question. I don't really know, either.

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#20
The first day I joined TSP as "Bringing Sexy Back Day"?
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#21
I really do not want 'Liberation Day' to be a holiday. Its not really a topic I want to be reminded of every year.
#22
True, and I was about to suggest we make the opposite day of the year Liberation Day. Tongue

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#23
Is this getting anywhere near being moved to a vote, Bel?
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#24
Well done Bel, this is really fantastic work! *applause*



As for multiple feeders... it's hard to stretch my memory back but I'm pretty sure my first nation was definitely in east/south/west/north pacific and not <em class='bbc'>the</em> pacific... and I have a national flag image dated 22/04/2003 so I am skeptical of an April 29th foundation day but I would still support it if there was a strong consensus.
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#25
I think SB's statement is reasonable. I think we should implement the other holiday proposals.We should also create a "Milograd Month" that celebrates my existence. :milo:


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