09-24-2010, 09:11 PM
We started this assembly on July 14th. That means we've been at this for two months now. I think it'd be disappointing to simply scrap what we've been working on and start anew. Just how long are we planning to work on this? Is it really a good idea to draw something up completely anew with only 5-6 people working at it?
The reason why they are not working anymore is because we've been in this limbo period for quite some time and are adhering to a Charter that is rigid, out of date and, in some cases, it is impossible to follow (ie, we have one PM, one MOR, and one delegate consisting of the government). We can't go forward with that charter. My hats off to those who wrote it, and it worked well at the time. But we as a region have changed. And I wouldn't say that's a bad thing, but we've changed to the point where the current charter just will not work. We've made suggestions, proposed new things, and I think we've got a good document on our table right now.
I echo the frustrations of those in this thread who want others to participate. I fear if we keep heading down this road, TSP will permanently become a region of few, and not extending the chance to others that they can participate. If we shoulder all responsibilities to just the PM and delegate, where does that leave everyone else in the region? If you don't give people things to do, they won't feel as compelled to stay. But it doesn't have to be about positions. The nice thing about a general assembly such as this is <em class='bbc'>you don't need a position of power to participate</em>. Anyone here can and should be validated. Will we keep that by handing the power over to just a few people? I don't think so. I believe what we have written is a good recipe for success: it allows for participation, gives nations a chance to run in elections, and gives the old guard something to do as well, should they choose to get involved in the government in either branch.
But there are problems in this region. To me, the glaring problem is the lack of activity. Collectively, just half a dozen folks have participated in this assembly. That is disappointing to me. Where is the source of this problem, though? Is it:
1. The people in the region just don't care about the government
2. The region just doesn't have enough 'hooks' to keep people in the region actively.
3. Those in the government haven't been doing their job, and the region's been falling by the wayside.
4. We're just not being creative enough.
5. We're too slow and people lose interest.
1 just isn't feasible - I can't be convinced we're a region of 2,000 apathetic people. Personally, I think it's a mix of 2, 3, 4, and 5. What incentives does a nation have by staying here over moving to a userite region? I know this is an uncomfortable question, but we've really got to be prepared to reflect on this question, accept a few things, and move on from them with carrying on some changes. But with each hook we add, each creative point we come across and try to implement, we must be prepared to put the time in for it. As far as #3 is concerned, I'll shoulder some of the blame for that. It's just hard for me to stay consistent, and I'll take the rap for not being as quick, creative, or active as I should be round these parts. I think we've all been trying, but we may not be on the same page. After all, just look at the last... four posts on this thread, then read the rest of this thread. We're all pulling a little - we should make sure we're pulling in the right direction, I guess is what I am trying to say. But look at #5. We're moving at a slow pace now. Expedience should not be a substitute for democracy and hashing things out, but we do need to keep moving, keep active, and look forward. If we keep getting hung up in these bouts of activity, is it unfair for us to expect new members to keep going? Look at the new members we've had in the past six months. Where are most of them?
I really want to see this region succeed. I think we all do. But wanting isn't the same as doing. We have to put in the effort.
We've got a good charter right now in the draft stage, additions made and the like. Heck, it even doesn't have an MOR position. I'm the current MOR, lol. That's ok - I don't need a position to contribute in this region. No one really does, no one really should. In all honesty, we don't have a government right now, so I don't know why people are being appointed to such things. Appointing people shouldn't be priority. This, this assembly, should be #1 priority right now. After that, fixing the government should be #2. That's going to be tough as nails, but we're going to have to do this, and we're going to need to sort of help and lean on each other to do it. This is not a job of one, or two, or even a small group. This should be a job of all. Hopefully, through this, we become a closer region because of it.
All across NS, TSP is regarded as the "inactive region". I hate when people refer to us as that. We <em class='bbc'>can</em> get active, have a functioning government and move forward. We have a crew of "shakers and rollers" in this region. I call them that because they tend to be sparks wherever they go. We have a few right here in this region, in the old guard, and in a few new folk here. Collectively, we make up the forum community of this region. We can make a difference and march forward. I think if we keep at it and do some work each day, we can obtain the goal of being active. This doesn't have to be boring or agonizing, on the contrary, it will be probably much less agonizing than listening to me and my silly rant
.
Does anyone else feel the same way? Sometimes I have a big mouth, I admit, so I apologize if any of this came off as brash.
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The reason why they are not working anymore is because we've been in this limbo period for quite some time and are adhering to a Charter that is rigid, out of date and, in some cases, it is impossible to follow (ie, we have one PM, one MOR, and one delegate consisting of the government). We can't go forward with that charter. My hats off to those who wrote it, and it worked well at the time. But we as a region have changed. And I wouldn't say that's a bad thing, but we've changed to the point where the current charter just will not work. We've made suggestions, proposed new things, and I think we've got a good document on our table right now.
I echo the frustrations of those in this thread who want others to participate. I fear if we keep heading down this road, TSP will permanently become a region of few, and not extending the chance to others that they can participate. If we shoulder all responsibilities to just the PM and delegate, where does that leave everyone else in the region? If you don't give people things to do, they won't feel as compelled to stay. But it doesn't have to be about positions. The nice thing about a general assembly such as this is <em class='bbc'>you don't need a position of power to participate</em>. Anyone here can and should be validated. Will we keep that by handing the power over to just a few people? I don't think so. I believe what we have written is a good recipe for success: it allows for participation, gives nations a chance to run in elections, and gives the old guard something to do as well, should they choose to get involved in the government in either branch.
But there are problems in this region. To me, the glaring problem is the lack of activity. Collectively, just half a dozen folks have participated in this assembly. That is disappointing to me. Where is the source of this problem, though? Is it:
1. The people in the region just don't care about the government
2. The region just doesn't have enough 'hooks' to keep people in the region actively.
3. Those in the government haven't been doing their job, and the region's been falling by the wayside.
4. We're just not being creative enough.
5. We're too slow and people lose interest.
1 just isn't feasible - I can't be convinced we're a region of 2,000 apathetic people. Personally, I think it's a mix of 2, 3, 4, and 5. What incentives does a nation have by staying here over moving to a userite region? I know this is an uncomfortable question, but we've really got to be prepared to reflect on this question, accept a few things, and move on from them with carrying on some changes. But with each hook we add, each creative point we come across and try to implement, we must be prepared to put the time in for it. As far as #3 is concerned, I'll shoulder some of the blame for that. It's just hard for me to stay consistent, and I'll take the rap for not being as quick, creative, or active as I should be round these parts. I think we've all been trying, but we may not be on the same page. After all, just look at the last... four posts on this thread, then read the rest of this thread. We're all pulling a little - we should make sure we're pulling in the right direction, I guess is what I am trying to say. But look at #5. We're moving at a slow pace now. Expedience should not be a substitute for democracy and hashing things out, but we do need to keep moving, keep active, and look forward. If we keep getting hung up in these bouts of activity, is it unfair for us to expect new members to keep going? Look at the new members we've had in the past six months. Where are most of them?
I really want to see this region succeed. I think we all do. But wanting isn't the same as doing. We have to put in the effort.
We've got a good charter right now in the draft stage, additions made and the like. Heck, it even doesn't have an MOR position. I'm the current MOR, lol. That's ok - I don't need a position to contribute in this region. No one really does, no one really should. In all honesty, we don't have a government right now, so I don't know why people are being appointed to such things. Appointing people shouldn't be priority. This, this assembly, should be #1 priority right now. After that, fixing the government should be #2. That's going to be tough as nails, but we're going to have to do this, and we're going to need to sort of help and lean on each other to do it. This is not a job of one, or two, or even a small group. This should be a job of all. Hopefully, through this, we become a closer region because of it.
All across NS, TSP is regarded as the "inactive region". I hate when people refer to us as that. We <em class='bbc'>can</em> get active, have a functioning government and move forward. We have a crew of "shakers and rollers" in this region. I call them that because they tend to be sparks wherever they go. We have a few right here in this region, in the old guard, and in a few new folk here. Collectively, we make up the forum community of this region. We can make a difference and march forward. I think if we keep at it and do some work each day, we can obtain the goal of being active. This doesn't have to be boring or agonizing, on the contrary, it will be probably much less agonizing than listening to me and my silly rant
. Does anyone else feel the same way? Sometimes I have a big mouth, I admit, so I apologize if any of this came off as brash.
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