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Treaty Between TNI and TSP
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I am afraid you are really clutching at straws now. Seeing as TNI hasn't had constitutionally mandated colonies in about 3 years I am not sure how it could extend to our colonies. Furthermore as in all previous TNI documents anything that includes colonies as well as the home region was referred to The New Inquisition Empire or contained some enactment clause stating it will apply to TNI and the Empire. It would never hold up in TNI's court that this Treaty would apply to the whole Empire given the lack of any clause or reference to Empire and as such I am sure it would not hold up in Court here. 'You'll note it uses the plural of "region" but does limit that plurality to two regions, so the clause could come to mean all the regions of The New Inquisition.' Again this is stretching your argument to breaking point. Should you search Nationstates for The New Inquisition there is one region that comes up. That is the Nationstates region of The New Inquisition. It's URL is nationstates.net/region=the_new_inquisition. There are no other regions that this could possibly apply for and again would not stand up in a Court. 'You say won't assist any region to overthrow us.. but what about assisting an organization like say, the former, "Empire" (you use the phrase, 'regions and organizations' in the first and second clauses, then omit, 'organizations' for the third). You also aren't obligated to refrain from assisting say, Sedge from overthrowing TSP because Sedge was an individual not a region (at least TRR argues so). In fact, none of this treaty recognizes the overthrowing of the region by individuals.. yet people like SB are clamoring that this would protect us from Dev-like coups... but Dev was an individual and frankly, if TSP is going to be couped again, very few regions or organizations are going to risk the PR .. but doing it as an individual is possible (like, say Frak). 'This treaty would morally oblige us to assist TSP regardless of who or what the perpetrator. The very fact I am saying so now binds us to that. If it is generally considered that the clause is not specific enough then I would be happy to arrange to amend the treaty. (By the way, more generally and not just to Uni, the Treaty passed TNI's Reichstag today unanimously). I'm not going to withdraw any association with Europeia. As I said before they are TNI's closest allies and we very much value our relationship with them. That doesn't necessarily mean we agree on all issues or always have the same line though. TNI unequivocally would not support any region, organisation, individual or anything else trying to illegitimately (i.e. not through the proper legal process outlined by TSP law) take over TSP or threaten its security. That is as plain a promise as it is possible to make in that regard. Should TSP's security be threatened TNI will provide as many troops as is asked for by TSP's government, be that a handful or a full deployment. All of this really goes without saying for the most part and no one else in either region has raised these points. You seem to be resorting to them once all of your other lines of attack have failed rather than addressing the legitimate questions and comments to you that other people raised. That said though I'm a reasonable enough person, as I'm sure the people here who have worked with me in the past will testify, and as such I will happily continue to answer whatever concerns you or others have in as honest a fashion as I possibly can.
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Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-09-2012, 03:39 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-09-2012, 11:12 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Haxstree - 03-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-11-2012, 01:21 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-12-2012, 05:19 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-16-2012, 03:17 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-16-2012, 07:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-16-2012, 07:42 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 07:58 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-16-2012, 08:00 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 11:09 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-16-2012, 11:52 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 12:18 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-17-2012, 01:03 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-17-2012, 01:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-17-2012, 04:29 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-17-2012, 05:53 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-17-2012, 06:14 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-17-2012, 07:28 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 09:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-17-2012, 03:45 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 10:26 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 04:47 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-18-2012, 05:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 07:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-18-2012, 07:11 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 07:24 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-18-2012, 11:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-18-2012, 11:36 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-18-2012, 09:54 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-19-2012, 07:28 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-19-2012, 08:19 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-19-2012, 09:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-19-2012, 08:25 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-20-2012, 12:42 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Solm - 03-20-2012, 01:04 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-20-2012, 12:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-20-2012, 01:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-20-2012, 02:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-20-2012, 02:50 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-20-2012, 03:38 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 08:11 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 08:22 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Fisch - 03-20-2012, 08:46 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Mahaj - 03-20-2012, 08:56 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Mahaj - 03-20-2012, 08:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-20-2012, 09:42 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 09:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-20-2012, 10:17 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-20-2012, 10:36 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-21-2012, 01:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-21-2012, 03:56 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-21-2012, 07:35 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-21-2012, 11:00 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-21-2012, 12:12 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-21-2012, 07:21 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Charles I. Cerebella - 03-21-2012, 10:03 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-21-2012, 10:56 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 01:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 01:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 01:46 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-22-2012, 01:54 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 01:55 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:12 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:22 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-22-2012, 02:22 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:23 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:23 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:30 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:38 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:41 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 02:42 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:49 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 02:50 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:51 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 03:01 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 03:04 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 03:20 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 03:56 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 04:17 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-22-2012, 07:37 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-22-2012, 10:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-22-2012, 04:46 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:32 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:35 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 10:58 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Rebel-topia - 03-23-2012, 12:27 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Todd McCloud - 03-23-2012, 04:54 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-23-2012, 07:06 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 09:44 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 12:14 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-23-2012, 06:49 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 09:51 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-24-2012, 04:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Todd McCloud - 03-24-2012, 04:44 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-24-2012, 10:40 AM

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