03-22-2012, 10:53 PM
[quote name="Southern Bellz"] [quote name='"Eluvatar"]
From what Unibot has said, he feels uncomfortable in Balder, and he didn't want that to happen in TSP.
So to make sure it didn't happen he used arguments with no evidence, made sweeping generalizations about TNI, saying how he feels every raider action is evil. All of that has ZERO place in this assembly which is accepting of all people. If Unibot was left unchecked, there would have been a flipped situation in balder where only defenders and the defender allied felt comfortable.
I still am 100% convinced that UDL overstepped its bounds in some fashion. I will concede it wasnt a silent coup, or an organized effort, but a significant amount of weekend TSPers like Mahaj came pouring in to support the UDL hardline. In fact, not one person from the organization has even mentioned that this might be a sight cause for concern for non-UDL members.
TSP members are more than welcome to be a TSP national and a UDL member, but that doesn't give them the right to come here and then influence TSP. Unibot admitted he had an outside personal bias with TNI, that extends a lot from his position in UDL and having constant dealing with TNI, in which he brands TNI as his enemy. He called all of their past actions with TSP, insincere, and accused all of their words of being empty just because he has conditioned himself to see them only as an enemy.
Then because he makes a mistake, he suggests that TSP changes its citizenship laws to be less welcoming and closed. I say the UDL needs to change ITS policy of what its members should and shouldn't do if it doesn't want to be held accountable for its actions. [/quote]
Um, it wouldn't hurt non-UDL members because most non-UDL members aren't defenders. I was saying TSP shouldn't be a nasty place for defenders and I found TNI's influence in Balder made it a nasty place for defenders and thus hurt the regional community overall since it was only a nice place for raider-leaning neutrals and raiders.
If you don't want TSP to be a safe place for defenders to have a home without being called as ... whatever, then sure.. make us out as witches and burn us on the stakes like you're doing here. :/
But otherwise, how are we suppose to argue against the encroaching influence of an extremely unpleasant force without to some degree, saying bad things about them?
Southern Bellz Wrote:Yeah its obvious' date=' he is mad Balder is not in a UDL spehere of influence and he feels uncomfortable there so he is trying to do that in TSP but flipped.? I dont think so. [/quote']
I don't think that's fair. At all.
Unibot is passionate about what he believes in, and I think overreacted to what he saw as bad policy.
There is not and has never been any UDL effort to influence the feeders toward its interests.
And if there ever is, I will resign.
From what Unibot has said, he feels uncomfortable in Balder, and he didn't want that to happen in TSP.
So to make sure it didn't happen he used arguments with no evidence, made sweeping generalizations about TNI, saying how he feels every raider action is evil. All of that has ZERO place in this assembly which is accepting of all people. If Unibot was left unchecked, there would have been a flipped situation in balder where only defenders and the defender allied felt comfortable.
I still am 100% convinced that UDL overstepped its bounds in some fashion. I will concede it wasnt a silent coup, or an organized effort, but a significant amount of weekend TSPers like Mahaj came pouring in to support the UDL hardline. In fact, not one person from the organization has even mentioned that this might be a sight cause for concern for non-UDL members.
TSP members are more than welcome to be a TSP national and a UDL member, but that doesn't give them the right to come here and then influence TSP. Unibot admitted he had an outside personal bias with TNI, that extends a lot from his position in UDL and having constant dealing with TNI, in which he brands TNI as his enemy. He called all of their past actions with TSP, insincere, and accused all of their words of being empty just because he has conditioned himself to see them only as an enemy.
Then because he makes a mistake, he suggests that TSP changes its citizenship laws to be less welcoming and closed. I say the UDL needs to change ITS policy of what its members should and shouldn't do if it doesn't want to be held accountable for its actions. [/quote]
Um, it wouldn't hurt non-UDL members because most non-UDL members aren't defenders. I was saying TSP shouldn't be a nasty place for defenders and I found TNI's influence in Balder made it a nasty place for defenders and thus hurt the regional community overall since it was only a nice place for raider-leaning neutrals and raiders.
If you don't want TSP to be a safe place for defenders to have a home without being called as ... whatever, then sure.. make us out as witches and burn us on the stakes like you're doing here. :/
But otherwise, how are we suppose to argue against the encroaching influence of an extremely unpleasant force without to some degree, saying bad things about them?
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