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Treaty Between TNI and TSP
I hope this will be my FINAL post on the subject, but have a feeling it wont. I am not delighted to make this post, but Unibot has put me in a position where I feel I must. I had a conversation with Unibot last night that I found to be one of the least favorite conversations I have ever had in NationStates. I talked to a man who honestly needs to take a step back from the game. At one point, he threatened to quit TSP if I shared parts of the story that I feel pertain to TSP security. That appeal to my emotions was unfair to me, and put me in a position where I had to choose between personally hurting Unibot (which is nothing I am interested in) and the security of this region. What I will say is that I will not talk to Unibot in private again. At one point I was concerned about his safety when he did not respond after awhile, and that?s when it clicked to me Unibot takes NS to heart and too seriously to be considered healthy. While people like me play a degree of NS seriously, I think it is due to the joy of political simulation, not due to an unhealthy obsession. As someone who care for every person behind the nation, I cant help but suggest to Unibot to take a break from the game. I cannot feel comfortable with myself without telling you that.What I am about to type, came directly from Unibot. I have sent Carta the logs (with Unibot?s permission) to verify the facts. Some of the conclusions from my facts are my own. I am not posting the logs, because some of this conversation I believe to be personal, and not helpful to the regional conversation. Plus its shitty to just post logs.This ENTIRE story starts with Balder, the UDL and TNI. As you know Balder was a GCR that was added to the game. It was an exciting event and all sorts of game-players flocked to Balder. The main people in this story include people from TNI and people from the UDL. After establishing Balder, Unibot feels TNI/Balder members created an environment that targeted UDL and made the feel uncomfortable.Unibot then told me that UDL members have been leaving regions like Balder, where they feel unwelcome, into regions like TSP where they do feel welcome. I am glad UDLers feel welcome in TSP, and I think that it speaks highly of our region that we take in EVERYONE who wants to take part in TSP, as an ally or a citizen.Unibot then tells me that he viewed TNI?s entry into TSP as a direct threat of UDL feeling ?comfortable? in the region. The problem is, he doesn?t tell the TSP assembly this, he goes directly to Mahaj and Solm (both UDL members) and tells him this concern. THEN Mahaj and Solm vote FOR.Mind you, Unibot spins an entire different story for the assembly at this point. He mentions FRA vs GCR wars, said that TNI tried to coup TSP with Sedge (when in fact it was the other way around, and worst of all he created an environment where TNI members and raiders would feel uncomfortable. It is not till I start questioning him about this that he decides to come out with the truth.I have no problems with UDL members joining TSP, but this crosses a line. There was a coordinated effort to keep information away from the TSP assembly and to misdirect the assembly on the REAL issues, while the real goal was shared with UDL members personally. He didn?t share it with the assembly because he thought it would get out to raiders and it would be leaked by ME.It is unreasonable to seek asylum in our region if you feel uncomfortable in others, then attempt to make it uncomfortable for this region?s others friends, members and allies.That really is my story, and I think it is a huge deal. I know Unibot?s actions don?t reflect on all of UDL, but Unibot?s actions dragged UDL issues, and his personal issue into TSP while he willfully attempted to cover it up until he simply couldn?t.I do not feel good posting this, Hile can attest to that, and I did not make ANY of this up, Carta can attest to that. I can?t believe this, and don?t know what actions to take to correct this. I just hope putting the truth out to the region will be a first small step and hope UDL/TSPers and nonUDL/TSPers can come up with a solution.I would also like to mention, some of the events, like how Balder went down is Unibot's view on the matter, I do not know what happened in Balder, and think Unibot isnt lying, but not admitting his fault into how Balder turned out.In solidarity with ALL TSPers,Southern Bellz, TSP Citizen
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Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-09-2012, 03:39 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-09-2012, 11:12 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Haxstree - 03-10-2012, 08:54 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-11-2012, 01:21 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-12-2012, 05:19 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-16-2012, 03:17 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-16-2012, 07:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-16-2012, 07:42 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 07:58 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-16-2012, 08:00 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-16-2012, 11:09 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-16-2012, 11:52 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 12:18 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-17-2012, 01:03 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-17-2012, 01:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-17-2012, 04:29 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-17-2012, 05:53 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-17-2012, 06:14 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-17-2012, 07:28 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 09:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-17-2012, 03:45 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-17-2012, 10:26 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 04:47 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-18-2012, 05:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 07:08 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-18-2012, 07:11 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-18-2012, 07:24 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-18-2012, 11:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-18-2012, 11:36 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-18-2012, 03:36 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-18-2012, 09:54 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-19-2012, 07:28 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-19-2012, 08:19 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-19-2012, 09:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-19-2012, 08:25 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-20-2012, 12:42 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Solm - 03-20-2012, 01:04 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-20-2012, 12:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-20-2012, 01:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-20-2012, 02:39 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-20-2012, 02:50 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-20-2012, 03:38 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 08:11 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 08:22 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Fisch - 03-20-2012, 08:46 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Mahaj - 03-20-2012, 08:56 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Mahaj - 03-20-2012, 08:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-20-2012, 09:42 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-20-2012, 09:59 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-20-2012, 10:17 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-20-2012, 10:36 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-21-2012, 01:34 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-21-2012, 03:56 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-21-2012, 07:35 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-21-2012, 11:00 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-21-2012, 12:12 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-21-2012, 07:21 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-21-2012, 10:56 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 01:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 01:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 01:46 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-22-2012, 01:54 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 01:55 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:12 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:22 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-22-2012, 02:22 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:23 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 02:23 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:30 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:38 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:41 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 02:42 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 02:49 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Hileville - 03-22-2012, 02:50 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 02:51 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 03:01 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 03:04 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 03:20 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-22-2012, 03:56 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 04:17 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-22-2012, 07:37 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-22-2012, 10:48 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Eluvatar - 03-22-2012, 04:46 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:32 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-22-2012, 10:35 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-22-2012, 10:58 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Rebel-topia - 03-23-2012, 12:27 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Todd McCloud - 03-23-2012, 04:54 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-23-2012, 07:06 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 09:44 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 12:14 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 05:24 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Unibot - 03-23-2012, 06:49 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by A mean old man - 03-23-2012, 09:51 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Milograd - 03-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Southern Bellz - 03-24-2012, 04:25 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Todd McCloud - 03-24-2012, 04:44 AM
Treaty Between TNI and TSP - by Antariel - 03-24-2012, 10:40 AM

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