03-04-2014, 08:52 PM
So since I've become delegate of TSP, I've noticed the Belschaft has been a strong proponent of the get rid of Unibot or UDL party. Â What I find troubling about this is the lack of any adherence to an actual democratic law or actual reason to do so but rather a focus on personal grievances and misusing power by the people who focus on this (such as a unilateral ban or suggestion of it).Â
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Regardless of the personal feelings involved, it's still imperative that due democratic and judicial procedures be followed. Which is why I'd like to see more power in the hands of the court so  that there are three branches of government balancing each other out.  It's not about the particular person or organization being targeted. It's actually about the focus on "removing undesirable elements" simply because they have an opposing viewpoint which is dangerous in any society even if its an online one. Â
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Unfortunately, because Belschaft isn't the only one implicated which is why I haven't posted it right away because I prefer people to get a chance to address their mistakes or bad behavior before publicly calling them out on it.Â
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Note to the cabinet, in some ways I feel responsible for the potential misuse of this act because in the moderation related PMs I mentioned that if anyone needed to be removed from TSP it should be done in a legal way. What I didn't mean was to create laws that are ambiguous enough to to then be misused but rather that there be evidence\due process\etc.
This is a rather important issue because in one direction TSP starts declaring one person\organization "hostile" and bans their members, then others, then others until only a small cadre of people remain who all agree with one another. Â Everyone in TSP has loyalty to TSP until absolutely proven otherwise. Â We cannot get in the practice of "catching criminals" before they come into existence.
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It is my understanding that sharing logs is considered rude in NS. Â Every person councils against it. The log itself only shows that Belschaft is intent on targeting UDL as a hostile organization with the only proof he has being their statement and his opinion that people associated with UDL cannot be loyal to TSP. That is the kind of thinking that I find troubling. Â We need to focus on "innocent before guilty" not just in the case of UDL but in any case such as that of a legally elected delegate who is accused of being a sleeper agent due to this toxic culture.
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*As Hileville and a many others know, my computer was hacked around the time of the whole "delegate is a sleeper agent" although I didn't realize the extent until later. My mouse moved on its own and windows were opened\closed and other troubling things. Â Hileville and QuietDad and a friend of mine helped me set up security so things like that didn't happen. Anyone who implies they are watching me in any way creeps the heck out of me.Â
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Regardless of the personal feelings involved, it's still imperative that due democratic and judicial procedures be followed. Which is why I'd like to see more power in the hands of the court so  that there are three branches of government balancing each other out.  It's not about the particular person or organization being targeted. It's actually about the focus on "removing undesirable elements" simply because they have an opposing viewpoint which is dangerous in any society even if its an online one. Â
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Unfortunately, because Belschaft isn't the only one implicated which is why I haven't posted it right away because I prefer people to get a chance to address their mistakes or bad behavior before publicly calling them out on it.Â
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Note to the cabinet, in some ways I feel responsible for the potential misuse of this act because in the moderation related PMs I mentioned that if anyone needed to be removed from TSP it should be done in a legal way. What I didn't mean was to create laws that are ambiguous enough to to then be misused but rather that there be evidence\due process\etc.
This is a rather important issue because in one direction TSP starts declaring one person\organization "hostile" and bans their members, then others, then others until only a small cadre of people remain who all agree with one another. Â Everyone in TSP has loyalty to TSP until absolutely proven otherwise. Â We cannot get in the practice of "catching criminals" before they come into existence.
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It is my understanding that sharing logs is considered rude in NS. Â Every person councils against it. The log itself only shows that Belschaft is intent on targeting UDL as a hostile organization with the only proof he has being their statement and his opinion that people associated with UDL cannot be loyal to TSP. That is the kind of thinking that I find troubling. Â We need to focus on "innocent before guilty" not just in the case of UDL but in any case such as that of a legally elected delegate who is accused of being a sleeper agent due to this toxic culture.
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*As Hileville and a many others know, my computer was hacked around the time of the whole "delegate is a sleeper agent" although I didn't realize the extent until later. My mouse moved on its own and windows were opened\closed and other troubling things. Â Hileville and QuietDad and a friend of mine helped me set up security so things like that didn't happen. Anyone who implies they are watching me in any way creeps the heck out of me.Â
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