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#1
While trying to get my puppet accepted into Balder, I've noticed something important.Their delegate is banjecting numerous nations, including a Unibot puppet. My puppet House Frey requested a statement on the RMB. That got suppressed, so I've sent a TG through my main asking for a more discrete statement, and self-deleted the RMB post till we know what is going on.Is this another coup in the making?
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#2
Just got a response....The Grand Duchy of LuxembourgNew. 2 minutes ago Why i've gone mad.
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#3
The RMB link to the Balder forum has been removed. The endorsement cap is down to five. The Vice-Delegate has been banjected by the delegate.
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#4
And now he's setting up alliances with regions like the Axis of Evil??? I'm aware of the aim of yesterday's planned UDL op, but I was under the impression nothing happened and it was postponed? If that is so, what on earth is the delegate doing? Is the UDL going to act on this?They've also made an embassy request to LWU; I've tged Evil Wolf to see if he's willin to give TSP any information. I'm not entirely sure if I can share it with Uni or Hil or Hax as they are UDL members if the UDL is involved here??? If the Wolves get involved, I believe TSP has to stay neutral in this.By the fact Hil is not replying, and Uni is nowhere to be seen, UDL is apparently scrambling?Hil your puppet just got booted too.
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#5
Sorry, I was at luch. I had nothing to do with this and am extremely angered by my puppet getting banjected.
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#6
I could ask the delegate to bring it back? At least he's talking to me? I'll tell him your WA will be forced to stay in TSP for security?
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#7
I've sent a formal protest to Delegate Luxembourg, stating that whatever he is doing, Hil's puppet is no threat as his WA remains in TSP for security and an upcoming delegate run. I have asked him to reconsider his stance to a region that had been close to him.An invasion seems to have started in Balder; they are claiming the delegate is a tyrant. I supppose at least the UDL now doesn't have to worry about removing an elected delegate, as they would have had too... :glare: I assume when this mess is over Uni will come and make it all make sense Smile
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#8
I completely support his removal from the Delegate position.
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#9
Is TSP goin to intervene on this?We don't have any kind of fighting force to act with,and only two ministers online. We can't even get a majority of active ministers to support, unless you have Carta and Uni on IRC?
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Quote:Is TSP goin to intervene on this?

We don't have any kind of fighting force to act with,and only two ministers online. We can't even get a majority of active ministers to support, unless you have Carta and Uni on IRC?
I am not on IRC at the moment - working on that. If LWU is involved TSP has to stay neutral if they are not then let's draft a statement saying we fully support the removal of Lux as Delegate. He has acted against the region and must be removed.
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#11
Draft, pending majority cabinet approval.The South Pacific condemns the actions of Luxembourg, current Delegate of the sinker region of Balder. In banning and ejecting various nations without trial or explanation, concealing the forums where opposition could be voiced, and in suppressing regional messages questioning his new tyranny, Luxembourg has acted against the best interests of his region, and deserves to be removed.Do we mention the forum hacks or not?
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#12
No on the hacks let UDL handle that.
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#13
but won't our statement look silly if we ignore the fact that UDL was trying to remove a delegate who was acting illegally? Won't we be open to accusations of missin the real point?In other news, some nation called White Lance is claiming to be another of BPs group, and that they leaked the information to Lux. If that's true, they are either better organised or better placed than we thought. UDL needs to figure out this leak, fast.
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Quote:but won't our statement look silly if we ignore the fact that UDL was trying to remove a delegate who was acting illegally? Won't we be open to accusations of missin the real point?

In other news, some nation called White Lance is claiming to be another of BPs group, and that they leaked the information to Lux. If that's true, they are either better organised or better placed than we thought. UDL needs to figure out this leak, fast.
I am being accused of threatening the region over the closure of the UDL embassy.

Is there a possibility the leak is Hax?
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#15
The leak could be anyone, couldn't it? UDL is massive, and has tons of links throughout the game. As we don't really know who BP is, all it takes is someone from UDL mentioning it to someone else, and so on, until it got to this BP group member... to my mind UDL's security is poor.Mahaj is claiming Lux tried to hack a *game* account? Is this confirmed? If so the mods would have acted, wouldn't they? This white lance guy has found a friend, who is kicking up a fuss over the embassy arguments in Balder.
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#16
I didn't know anything about a game account being hacked. The reason I mentioned Hax was some of us believed he might be BP. If he is BP then he was in #UDL last night and knew whtat was going on.
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#17
I see your point.But how many people were talking to others who were not in the UDL channel? I mean, you told me about the op, and I doubt you were the only one who told a non-member. I didn't go blabbing it around, but what if someone else did, and it got to BP; it certainly seems to have taken a while since the op was announced and Lux decided to ask? The leak doesn't HAVE to be a UDL member...it could be anyone, over the whole period between when the op was announced and when Lux started to banject.
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#18
Lux resigned from the WA.
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#19
Just came here to post this TongueIf he's email hacked, hasn't he broken the RL law?Team BP seem to be doing a rapid about face on this ... though they are still claiming a coup was an illegal response....
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Quote:Just came here to post this Tongue

If he's email hacked, hasn't he broken the RL law?

Team BP seem to be doing a rapid about face on this ... though they are still claiming a coup was an illegal response....
In the US it is against the law I believe. Not sure about anywhere else.
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#21
Illegal in the UK too.I think Lux is based in Italy...but the accounts he's hacking are presumably Us
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#22
Why does all of this have to happen right before I am not going to be around all that much?
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#23
Let's get a statement released now condemming the actions of Lux. Ant. your draft looked good. We can add in that ilegal hacking occoured or something like that. Everyone knows what hapened.
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#24
BPs group have withdrawn all support. I guess once accusations of RL hacking appeared, they didn't want to be involved - only troublemakers in game, not RL.
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2nd Draft:The South Pacific condemns the actions of Luxembourg, ex-Delegate of the sinker region of Balder. In banning and ejecting various nations without trial or explanation, concealing the forums where opposition could be voiced, and in suppressing regional messages questioning his new tyranny, Luxembourg has acted against the best interests of his region, and deserves to be removed. Moreover, he allegedly hacked an email account, which is unjustifiable.If you like it, post it Smile
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