Major Intel from LWU

[Belschaft]

Ok, the following has been received from LWU, who should also have more for us soon;



Ok, courtesy of LWU we now have details of Frak's complete plan of action;

Frak - <!-- e -->Frak123@live.com<!-- e -->

Anon2020 - <!-- e -->Canon20@live.com<!-- e -->



Frak says:

Hey Evil Wolf

Evil Wolf says:

Hello.

Anon2020 says:

hi

Frak says:

Firstly, are you familiar with me or would you like an introduction?

Evil Wolf says:

An introduction is needed, yes.

Frak says:

Very well, I am Frak the Third, and I have been the ire of the TSP forum for some time now.

I want to get rid of them, by nearly any means necessary.

I was involved in an unendo campaign against Daynor soon after his election

This consumed most of his time, and capped his endorsements at 180, after they fell by about 30.

Now I am preparing to make another move, one where your insights would be appreciated.

Anon2020 says:

and I just watch

Evil Wolf says:

And who are you?

Anon2020 says:

me?

Evil Wolf says:

Yes

Anon2020 says:

secret

Frak says:

His ID is protected for his own safety

No offense to you, it's just procedure

Does this introduction satisfy you?

Evil Wolf says:

Yes, but is there a particular reason why Anon must be here?

Frak says:

He is trusted by me. As I told you, I was talking with someone and I said I would invite you in.

That was agreeable to you

So here we are

Anon2020 says:

I can go...



Frak says:

I don't think that will be needed

I'll let EW decide at this point

Evil Wolf says:

Well, is there anything Anon might contribute to this conversation?

Frak says:

The conversation hasn't started yet. And I would hope so. It would also save me the trouble of repeating it to him later.

I'd like to dig into the actual conversation, so if it is a problem he can go.

What do you say EW?

Evil Wolf says:

Sure

Let him stay

Anon2020 says:

thanks

Frak says:

Moving on then

I would assume you find my general goals with respect to TSP agreeable?

Belschaft is a defender and is protected by defenders

Evil Wolf says:

Yes, TSP has not exactly been the most pro-raider of feeders and I was extreamly disappointed in Bellz who had promised to change that but didn't deliver.

Frak says:

Good

We plan to attack Belschaft not much later than when he touches the seat

What do you think about that?

btw Daynor has just lost another endorsement

6 away now

Anon2020 says:

we have good timing

Frak says:

Nothing is done yet.

Evil Wolf says:

Right, I'm making food so I'm in and out. How many away is your lead from Bel himself?

Frak says:

We don't have "one" lead

We have many

There is more than just the two of us involved

Evil Wolf says:

What region is primarily in control of the operation?

Anon2020 says:

Are we speaking openly?

Frak says:

Just relax

No region is in primary control

I am the architect, for now.

Any overt regional declartion of responsibility would doom us anyway

It is a revolution, that is how it will be played.

Evil Wolf says:

I see. I can only assume you've already started setting up a shadow government then?

Frak says:

Not really

We are most concerned with the mechanics of actually taking the delegacy

It is well defended

We want some measure of your help though

So, we are open to discuss what you want in a TSP delegate

In exhance for help

*exchange

I'm not sure what it will look like if we take the delegacy. I do know that I want it, and am within reach.

Anon2020 says:



Evil Wolf says:

Well, this is interesting. I'm not sure if your aware of this but not only am I the second founder of LWU but I am also the military leader for The West Pacific.

Frak says:

I've been talking to ED

But we don't want that kind of help yet

I'd prefer LWU and raiders

TWP brings up too many complications

Could LWU be employed for this task?

Evil Wolf says:

We can be, yes.

Frak says:

Well let's make it happen

What do you want?

Anon2020 says:

my internet is being weird

I might have to quit and come back

Frak says:

Okay

Evil Wolf says:

That's fine.

Well first, who trained you lot?

Frak says:

lol

This is not a noob operation that is at a loss

I can't reveal any regional ties

Anon2020 says:

Frak has trained me sort of



Frak says:

I was asking more about what you want in a delegate or a TSP government

If we agree on what we want, I think once I've shown you were we are and how we are thinking, you won't doubt our "training"

We aren't update raiders.

-I- am not

Evil Wolf says:

Are you the actual leader or just the operational head?

Frak says:

The de facto leader

I don't decide by myself

Anon2020 says:

right

Frak says:

What I am doing here won't be contradicted by someone else in my group, if that is your concern.

Evil Wolf says:

Good. Who else other than LWU do you plan on bringing into this?

Frak says:

Have you signed on?

Evil Wolf says:

Yes. We'll be there.

Frak says:

Did you decide this unilaterally right now?

Or are you talking with someone now?

Anon2020 says:

And who is "we" if I could ask? What is your current strength?

Frak says:

I think those questions will be answered once the battle plans are brought out.

I want to know what exactly he has agreed to first.

Evil Wolf says:

One moment, I have to deal with something, give me 2 minutes.



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Frak says:

He is having internet problems

Evil Wolf says:

That's ok.

I can promise 10 troops and only that at the moment.

Frak says:

I find that number very large for LWU

Evil Wolf says:

We have reserves.

Frak says:

That can be brought upon before the day is out?



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Evil Wolf says:

Short notice? Mmm, most likely no. We have other operations we're wrapped up in, we'd require some prior notice to end them before commiting to TSP. The most I could commit within the very next 6 hours would be 5 non-updaters and that's if I can get ahold of them all in time.

Anon2020 says:

so you are not yet commited?

Evil Wolf says:

If we were given time to end operations and a full 24 hours, we can get the ten.

But they will not all be updaters

Frak says:

Fine

Here it is then

The action of tarting up, which is how we get close to Belschaft

Does not require LWU

For that most part, that hasn't started yet as we are already close.

We'll call that Combat Tarting

Because at that point we are breaking cap and starting propaganda

Evil Wolf says:

So unendorsement telegrams and the like

Frak says:

Part of this operation requires a feint, there LWU would be employed first

Yes

Evil Wolf says:

You're not planning on sending those out via the nations your swapping with, are you?

Frak says:

No that would be a mistake

Evil Wolf says:

Yes it would be

Frak says:

As I was saying, LWU would provide a feint which hasn't yet been decided on fully

But essentially, we are aware of spies within our operation

That are reporting essentially to Belschaft, but think they are secure

TSP forum people, of many stripes

Evil Wolf says:

How many pointmen do you have?

Frak says:

Well, trusted we have 3

after that we have 2 more

Evil Wolf says:

Why untrusted?

Frak says:

One is likely a spy

The other a resident with good influence that has been picked up

A valuable asset, but something of a wildcard

Evil Wolf says:

Is he fully aware of the plot?

Frak says:

The wildcard is not

Not yet

Evil Wolf says:

Ah. He'd probably be the best pointman if he's able to be controlled. Always nice when a delegate doesn't have enough influence to ban your lead.

Frak says:

That was the plan, yes

But our trusted points have influence equal to Bel

Or pretty close

The problem is Fudgie

She must be unendorsed enough so that Bel can not resign to her

LWU updaters or non updaters to allow Bel to think he can resign

Only to have one of us get past her

Also, UDL will get involved once Combat Tarting and unendo campaign begins

I was hoping such a move would rouse raiders of multiple orgs

Do you think that is possible?



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Evil Wolf says:

I wouldn't worry about Fudgie all that much, there is really not too much you can do about her and running unendorsement telegrams against her would be easy since not many people want to return to her inactive reign.

Frak says:

Well I disagree that unendo campaign would be easy. And she is a very big threat.

Bel could simply resign to her and she could dispose of us all.

Evil Wolf says:

If written correctly, its easy to pass her off as a tyrant trying to overthrow the government and return to her former dictatorial rule

Frak says:

I'm sure writing it won't be hard. I am confident she can be passed, or this plan would be futile. Either way, she is still a threat.

Our telegrams will have to go out before the Combat Tarting I think

Once that is finished, then the tarting begins

LWU moves in too pass Fudgie

UDL moves in

And my PR people work to handle the shit storm.

There are a lot of wildcards within the TSP forum as well, that could switch over to our side if they see us about to win.

I'd like you to work your raider contacts to neutralize the UDL if they do move. Unibot should be an easy enough motivator.

Evil Wolf says:

Why do you think Unibot will cooperate?

Frak says:

He won't

He is the enemy, the leader of the UDL

Evil Wolf says:

Ah, right, that group he made.

Frak says:

I was saying -he- should motivate raiders on the other side I would think

Since he's such an ass

A defender ass, which is the worst kind of ass. Worse than a feeder ass.

I'm grabbing a bite, brb

Evil Wolf says:

Defenders typically like to stay out of the feeders. Unibot might come in but if he plays to the FRA or TITO line of thought he'll probably keep out unless specifically requested.

Frak says:

before I step away for a minute, that won't be the case

Not here, Unibot is a TSP citizen. He has put the UDL very involved in TSP

He will move any defender he can in there

And he will have a very open mouth.

Evil Wolf says:

I see, that would change the situation then, yes

Frak says:

I'm stepping away for a minute

Evil Wolf says:

ok

Frak says:

And I'm back.

I brought the snack back with me

Evil Wolf says:

kinky

Frak says:

No

Not kinky

Evil Wolf says:

Heh

Frak says:

So

I need to solidify things on my end, and you can provide WAs

I'd also like you to be with us when we decide exactly how to do the Combat Tarting

We need someone experienced in ejections and influence and how it should all play out.

Feeders are very messy about it, because most everyone is just a minnow even though they are certainly not all equal.

Most everyone anyway

Could you do this?

Evil Wolf says:

Sure. I still think a more forward assult rather than this bit involving Fudgie is the better bet.

Assault even

Frak says:

If we don't attack Fudgie's endos, what is to stop Bel from resigning to her?

Evil Wolf says:

Pride, power, status, a lot of things, really.

Frak says:

I doubt he will sit in the delegacy, unable to eject a tarter, and not hand it over

That's what she has a high count for

I'm confident in that scenario she would be employed, even if late in the game.

He must not be able to resign to her, she only has to lose about 15 endorsements

My main concern is that having unendo TGs flying around will make the WAs suspicious and less likely to trade with anyone.

Still, we have experience tarting in the region that suggests we can overcome this with the right tarting message.

I'm away for another minute

Evil Wolf says:

Mmhmm

Frak says:

And I'm back

I hope that explains my concern for Fudgie

Evil Wolf says:

Yes, that makes much more sense now

Frak says:

I wouldn't be bothering her if it wasn't for her high count and crazy influence

*bothering with her

So, when can you consult about the Combat Tarting? I think I'll start unendo Fugie messages in 5-6 hours

Evil Wolf says:

Yes, I can help you with that.

Frak says:

At that time?

Evil Wolf says:

Sure.

Frak says:

Well, this has been good. You still haven't told me what -you- want though.

I'm aware of your experience in the feeders. Who will actually hold the delegacy hasn't been decided, or a vice delegacy. I would of course give you a spot in any government that emerges. It would help though if I got a sense from you. Unless you are only motivated by a raider's heart to upset the sedentary order.

Evil Wolf says:

Not at all. I'd like leadership of the military in the newly established government

Frak says:

That would take a while to materialize

Evil Wolf says:

The way I see it, it would been to be orginized quickly for the purposes of homeland defense.

Frak says:

Okay then

As to TWP, if you think you could use your influence there to motivate their help during the Combat Tarting

that could be interesting

Still it's not part of my main plan, but I wouldn't want to discount the possible help.

Just be cautious in how you talk about it, ED wants to appear peaceful towards TSP I think, after this treaty. We can offer TWP true military avenues in TSP though, unlike Punk whose war was simply stupid.

If you are satasfied for now, I have some TSP forum people to deal with.

Talk later?

Evil Wolf says:

Sure

Frak says:

Talk to you later then

Evil Wolf says:

See you then

EW is in PD's government, so I think we can assume it's not PD, though this indicates his heir apparent may be involved.

punk d says:

hey

Evil Wolf says:

Hello

Are we still in a state of war with TSP?

punk d says:

i'm guessing the infiltration in TSP didn't happen?

we are not at 'peace'

now*

Evil Wolf said (3:40 PM):

We are or are not? Because I have a few people talking to me about a fairly well thought out take over plot in there

punk d says:

ah, good

TWP is read to move. but we really need movement. I am stepping down as del and we're about to hold new elections.

I'm not sure what the appetite is to take over TSP with the new folks.

or candidates.

Evil Wolf says:

Who might be the front runners?

punk d says:

Enlightened Defenders - who may already be aware of the plot and Bhang Bhang Duc.

Evil Wolf says:

Yeah, he did talk about ED shortly. What does ED know about these guys?

punk d says:

Not so much, but if he does win I'd chat with him.

Evil Wolf says:

Right. What odd happenings in TSP

punk d says:

yeah...and we still don't have an army.

or a foreign relations team.

but such is the life of NS 2011.

Evil Wolf says:

I can fix that if you'll dig up the Raider Guides I made for BSS back in 09. I can't find them anywhere so I am assuming they have been placed somewhere I can't see them

punk d says:

i probably can't see them either....i've got special mod powers, but i don't think i can see all.

Evil Wolf said (3:53 PM):

Meh

This one also bares investigating, as we see in it Mahaj lie about gaining permission from Carta. I am very suspicious of him right now.

Session Start: Thu Aug 25 01:09:42 2011

Session Ident: #The_Black_Hawks

[01] * Now talking in #The_Black_Hawks

[01] * Topic is 'Welcome to The Black Hawks' IRC channel! Home to the most feared raiders on NS.... And Bel, who is really quite cuddly. But don't eat him. They get mad.'

[01] * Set by Briana on Fri Jul 22 07:09:33

[01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Tikal

[01] <+Mahaj> i was thinking of digging myself in deep and exposing it all

[01] <@SunRawr> Nice

[01] <+Mahaj> i'm talking to Carta right now

[01] <+Mahaj> Carta has given me the go-ahead

[01] <@SunRawr> Oh, good.

[01] <+Mahaj> yep

[01] <+Mahaj> this should be fun...

[01] <@SunRawr> lol. Have fun

[01] <+Mahaj> ha thanks

[01] <+Mahaj> i imagine you'll be able to see the logs at the end

[01] <+Mahaj>

[01] <@SunRawr> Sounds like fun

[01] <@SunRawr> Has he already tried to recruit you?

[01] <+Mahaj> yep

[01] <+Mahaj> he wanted me to help him coup TRR too lol

[01] <@Tikal> what are you guys talking about o_O

[01] <@SunRawr> Ha! When was that?

[01] <+Mahaj> at the time of the Summit in THe South, so the first week of July

[01] <+Mahaj> well, be back soon

[01] <@SunRawr> Okay

[01] <@SunRawr> Frak, Tikal

[01] <@Tikal> you have his ip?

[01] <@SunRawr> Carta thinks he signed into IRC once, banned the IP.

[01] <@SunRawr> But Mahaj is talking to him on MSN.

[01] <@SunRawr> Want me to get the ip from my log?

[01] <+Mahaj> okay i'm back

[01] <@SunRawr> Welcome.

[01] <+Mahaj> ready for my date with Frak lol

[01] <@SunRawr> lol

[01] <+Mahaj> my first date! 

[01] <@SunRawr> You couldn't have picked a nicer guy

[01] <+Mahaj> i'd rather it be a girl.

[01] <@SunRawr> Eeeew

[01] <+Mahaj> but i'll totally see if Frak is into you lol

[01] <@SunRawr> lol!

[01] <+Mahaj> now now, Rawr, girls are just as good as guys.

[01] <+Mahaj> Right, Tikal? ;P

[01] <@SunRawr> As long as everyone's clothes are on, yeah, they are.

[01] <+Mahaj> lol

[01] <+Mahaj> but when the clothes come off...

[01] <+Mahaj> haha

[01] <@SunRawr> Then guys are far superior

[01] <+Mahaj>

[01] <+Mahaj> for *you*

[01] <+Mahaj> some of us happen to *like* girls lol

[01] <@SunRawr> Insane people..

[01] <+Mahaj> lol

[02] <@Tikal> I think both guys and girls are nice to look at

[02] <@Tikal> >.<

[02] <+Mahaj> lol

[02] <+Mahaj> okay, Frak should be on by now

[02] <@SunRawr> Is he standing you up?

[02] <+Mahaj> i wouldn't be surprised.

[02] <@Tikal> loool

[02] <@Tikal> that's why you shouldn't date guys, Mahaj

[02] <+Mahaj> i'm willing to be this will happen on my first date.

[02] <@SunRawr> Awe!

[02] <+Mahaj> not that i'm anywhere close to said date.

[02] <@Tikal> lol

[02] <@Tikal> daw

[02] <+Mahaj> *turns red*

[02] <+Mahaj> Frak is annoying

[02] <@SunRawr> He is on now?

[02] <+Mahaj> no

[02] <+Mahaj> lol

[02] <@SunRawr> lame

[02] <+Mahaj> yeah

[02] <@SunRawr> If the IP carta got on him is right, it should be way late where he is right now >.>

[02] <+Mahaj> seriously?

[02] <@SunRawr> Yeah.. Why?

[02] <+Mahaj> dunno. well, he's still not here

[02] <+Mahaj> well, i'll be back soon

[02] <@SunRawr> Okay

[02] <+Mahaj> where the hell is frak now? >.<

[03] <+Mahaj> well Frak is now online

[03] <+Mahaj> and says i'll have to talk to him later. -.-

[03] <@SunRawr> Awe.

[03] <+Mahaj> is there a way to see who someone is chatting with?

[03] <@SunRawr> Nope, don't think so

[03] <+Mahaj> okay

[03] <+Mahaj> can you talk to multiple people at a time on messenger?

[03] <@SunRawr> Yup

[03] <@SunRawr> In the conversation window, hit the invite button

[03] <+Mahaj> okay, then Frak is simplistic enough he can only talk to one person at a time

[03] <@SunRawr> Strange.

[03] <+Mahaj> he did say he was talking to that person about TSP

[03] <@SunRawr> Did he say who?

[03] <@SunRawr> He is probably too smart for that..

[03] <+Mahaj> no he didn't lol

[03] <+Mahaj> Rawr, do you know someone by the name of Terri Anderson?

[03] <@SunRawr> I don't think so.. Why?

[03] <+Mahaj> thats one of Frak's 'friends' on messenger

[03] <@SunRawr> How do you know?

[03] <+Mahaj> i can see on his profile

[03] <@SunRawr> Weird.

[03] <@SunRawr> See me on there? He added me a while back after he TGd me a few times. I gave Carta all the transcripts.

[03] <+Mahaj> yeah I see you

[03] <+Mahaj>

[03] <@SunRawr>

[03] <+Mahaj>

[03] <@SunRawr> Did you save the email addresses?

[03] <+Mahaj> for frak?

[03] * +Mahaj (<!-- e -->webchat@ip98-169-73-153.dc.dc.cox.net<!-- e -->) Quit (Quit: g'night!)

Session Close: Thu Aug 25 04:11:45 2011

[Belschaft]

Ok, could everyone please read these and give me feedback/anything we spot.I'm likely to overtake Topid in the next couple of days, and as Frak has observed will not have the influence to ban multiple people.I will also be unavailable on the 30/31st.

[Topid]

Two face Punk rat. Seriously, what the hell. Unilateral peace but still open to overthrowing the region? Pretending their region is peaceful to us is even more stupid now.Uhh. First, Mahaj knows Tikal is really in charge of LWU, and that Tikal is a TSP citizen. So I'm not sure this would be someone as informed as Mahaj. Going to LWU was silly. I'm not sure what to think. The fact that they think they can hold the delegacy is even more laughable. They don't understand the math of influence yet. I can't even get close to ejecting tons in the region. Even if they've never been delegate. Frak can't think he's more experienced at this sort of thing than Sedge. Like him or not he knows gameplay, if he couldn't do it no one could.

[Belschaft]

Their basic plan to try to put someone ahead of Fudgie is not in itself half bad, and they are correct that I would have serious issues banjecting people.I've TG'd Fudgie and asked her to do a bit of tarting. There really isn't anything else I can do without blowing LWU as an Intel source.The mahaj issue is serious, as he lied about being told by carta to infiltrate them. Uni is going to question him for me.

[Topid]

Carta says the convo never happened?I should point out though - Mahaj and The South could reveal Frak at any time. He posted in their summit, they have his IP.

[Belschaft]

Carta says the convo never happened?

I should point out though - Mahaj and The South could reveal Frak at any time. He posted in their summit, they have his IP.

Hmm.. good point.

Anyway, the Mahaj thing is just a mess. Incompetence on his part, not malice. Carta told him to talk to me, Mahaj decided to try to infiltrate by himself.

[Belschaft]

Another chat between PD and EW.

punk d says:
hey are you serious about the TSP plot?
Evil Wolf says:
Well, there clearly is one going on
punk d says:
that wasn't my question.
perhaps i'll rephrase....
Are you committed to the TSP plot?
Evil Wolf says:
I was just introducted to it but have expressed interest
punk d says:
Ok.
Evil Wolf says:
Should I go more in depth in it?
punk d says:
The more information you can gather the better.
But, I mean, to be honest I was hoping we would have been able to make an attempt on the delegacy last week. It doesn't seem that TWP has the ability or manpower to do much of anything.
What would be cool would be for you to build up the forces so we can take small founderless regions...just to get the juices flowing.
when Earth was defense minister she led one mission. unfortunately she had to retire but...this region of all feeders is probably most vigilante and I'd like to see someone take advantage of it.
Evil Wolf says:
Sure I can do that
punk d says:
thanks.

[Daytime to Night]

Terri that they mention in the last log is Darkesia of the West Pacific

[Belschaft]

I should mention that ED has also messaged me, but I don't know if he's playing me straight or not on this one.

Frak says:

Hey

Evil Wolf says:

Hey hey

Frak says:

Hey hey hey

Hey

So, I want to talk about the Combat Tarting

Basically, how to minimize the number of us who get ejected while maximizing the cost on Belschaft's influence.

So if you were me, how would you start to go about doing that?

Evil Wolf says:

Well use puppets first of all. Never refer to the people you are trying to push over Bel in the unendosement telegrams. Never send out telegrams of a political nature using the puppets you want to use to surpass Bel.

That sort of thing

Frak says:

I know that, my question revolves around GP mechanics

Once a nation starts Combat Tarting, they will be targeted

I have 3 profiles

1. Founded around the same time as Beslchaft, high tarted

2. Founded earlier, high tart

3 Backup, new, just tarting

So what is the best way to go? Put the oldest guy up first or what?

Evil Wolf says:

All three at once

One at a time makes it easier to single them out

Frak says:

No in terms of ejecting, do you mean running unendo campaigns against?

*Not

And in evaluating that suggestion, what advantage does it have for profile 3?

He would instantly get ejected

Wouldn't the best approach be to start the strongest, or the first two strongest?

Have Bel spend time running campaigns against them

Use up influence to eject as they get close

Then he is spent, both in PR and influence

And then move in everyone else?

Evil Wolf says:

The third would be a distraction, or perhaps a martyr

Something to use in propaganda as an example of an unjust government who bans whomever they don't like

Frak says:

How can profile 3 be an effective distraction when he can be ejected instantly?

Evil Wolf says:

Because of the debate you can rise of *why* he was ejected. Was it fair? Is Bel being a tool? Is this the start of a new tyrant? So on and so forth.

Frak says:

I don't think the propaganda will work out that way

Isn't a noob that just starts tarting an obvious invader?

I'm talking more about GP. In the end, they'll have their own spin machine. I don't want to put people up and have them ejected pointlessly.

The same "it wasn't fair" can be used on the older nations, with more weight. They are long term residents that get the boot by a new delegate, etc

I'm asking in terms of minimizing ejections, you'd want the heaviest influence guys first right?

Wolfy...

Evil Wolf says:

Right, distracted

No, any n00b that starts tarting is obviously a new. More so if they are vocial and active in the community.

*a n00b.

Forgive me but I've had a few

Frak says:

The new guy is going to tart to 100 where he is safe

I don't understand why you would suggest he begins to Combat Tart when he can instantly be ejected

I'm thinking we go high influence first, then overwhelm them with everyone else.

Which brings me to your non updaters

Can they tart?

Evil Wolf says:

Yes.

tarting is not hard

Frak says:

Some people don't have the time

Every day Belschaft spends with more endorsements than my guys, this job gets harder.

Can you give out orders to tart now?

Or ASAP. All they need is short, friendly messages, and then try to follow up.

These type of tarts have the highest rate of return.

No one wants to read some long ass TG

So what is your estimate of how many, when, and how fast they can tart the region's WAs?

Evil Wolf says:

Tarting all depends on how effective the message is

Frak says:

We have the most best rate of return in the region

All they have to do is be nice, short, endorse, and ask for an endorsement in return.

If they do that they won't have a problem

It won't be a political message, otherwise it will have a crap rate of return.

If they have a simple message and put in the time, they will get endorsed. The question is how many of them, when can they start, and how fast they can get their message out. Do you have an estimate for that?

Evil Wolf says:

At least three by the end of the week I can get in there endoswapping

Well, ok, by Sunday

Frak says:

"I endorsed you and would appreciate and endorsement in return. Thanks!" - this message has the best rate of return in all of TSP

Sunday is the earliest? Could at least one of them start now?

Belschaft will be delegate tomorrow.

Wolfy what hell are you doing right now? I think you are less than half into this conversation.

Evil Wolf says:

Drinking

And having drunking MSN conversations about sex

*drunken

Frak says:

Okay then let's wrap this up

Tell your people to tart up, and use a simple message.

I'm going to go after Fudgie tonight

Okay

Are you with me Wolfy?

Evil Wolf says:

Mostly

Frak says:

This isn't some bullshit. We want this feeder.

Evil Wolf says:

get online real quick

Frak says:

Why?

Evil Wolf says:

I can't send files offline

Frak says:

What are you going to send me?

Evil Wolf says:

Oh just get on

Frak says:

It better not be porn

Evil Wolf says:

If it were porn I would just link you

Frak says:

This asshole is going to try and talk to me, but okay

Evil Wolf says:

Just a second

Frak says:

Go!

Evil Wolf sends:





Frak says:

ah fuck

Go!

Go Go Go

Evil Wolf sends:





Evil Wolf sends:







Transfer of "unendorse Flemingovia.rtf" is complete.



Frak says:

I got it

Evil Wolf says:

Well, the first one at least

Frak says:

Did this message work?

It looks damn long

I don't even want to read it

Evil Wolf says:

Its an example. I will dig up the telegram JAL used in TNP when he took over the delegacy. It was very effective

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://s13.zetaboards.com/TNP/topic/6737448/1/'>http://s13.zetaboards.com/TNP/topic/6737448/1/</a>

Can you see that?

Frak says:

Dig it up like now? Or later? I'm tired anyway and the other guy who was supposed to help endorse isn't here

Maybe I'll go after her tomorrow

idk

that link is loading btw

Evil Wolf says:

I would like to note in JAL's telegram all of it is totally a lie with the exception of "He is not the elected delegate of The North Pacific" which is true, I was the elected Vice-delegate.

Frak says:

I was thinking faking being a member of TSP government

They made a dumbass MoS puppet, with the TSP flag and everyting

I could just copy that shit

Public Announcement from the Minster of Homeland (BS position): unendorse Fudgie

pwned

Evil Wolf says:

I'd use JAL's telegam as a model. Its short, catchy, and was very effective even if it was filled with lies. Its harder to disprove a lie than it is to sell it

Frak says:

yeah, how about my TSP gov puppet idea?

I think that and a JAL type telegram would kill Fudgie

Think I should start now or later?

I'm not sure if I should start if it's just me right now, unless you have a LWU around who wants to send out telegrams.

Stop fraking yourself

Evil Wolf says:

Hey, its your evil plot, we're just the back up

Frak says:

Yeah that's right

think think think

I think I'll start in half an hour

Or make one of my people do it

I do have a script that can auto-endo, but that's against the damn rules.

If only I could figure out how to make variable times between each TG, then the admins wouldn't know it was a script.

Poop

Evil Wolf says:

<a class='bbc_url' href='http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.ph...429364#p6429364'>http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.ph...429364#p6429364</a>

lulz

Frak says:

is it about me...

I didn't read all of it. All I know is w/e the guy is talking about is fucked up.

Evil Wolf says:

Yar

Frak says:

2 telegrams from TWP

read

hey, you have any idea what Punk's msn is?

this is from ED: I guess get with me when you get a chance, If I can see that this is winnable I will be on board, that is my issue with PDs war, it cannot be won. if your plan is better than his, we will see what we can do.

and Punk wants to talk

it looks like I might be able to pull in TWP, you can help with that

w/e position you have there, leverage it

OKAY WOLFY?!

don't pass out on me

Evil Wolf said (10:23 PM):

What

Oh right

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Evil Wolf says:

he's on now

Frak says:

well I'm talking to ED now

hold on

Evil Wolf says:

Alright

[Daytime to Night]

Two face Punk rat. Seriously, what the hell. Unilateral peace but still open to overthrowing the region? Pretending their region is peaceful to us is even more stupid now.

Uhh. First, Mahaj knows Tikal is really in charge of LWU, and that Tikal is a TSP citizen. So I'm not sure this would be someone as informed as Mahaj. Going to LWU was silly.

On Tikal, I wouldn't be so sure that being a citizen of TSP makes him loyal to us. He said this about Sedge's coup...

What he did WASN'T an invasion.

It was a mere internal coup.


If you look at invasions you'll notice the land invaded is claimed for another entity; invaders don't organize elections as soon as they arrive.


Anyway, voted against the repeal [D2N] due to the fact that I think the Coup is worthy of a Commendation

[Belschaft]

I highly doubt Tikal would try anything whilst I'm delegate, as it would be pretty likely to end our friendship. She's also been very insistent that when she joins a region as a citizen she actually means it in the past.

[king j]

I already have a few suspisions myself starting with Mahaj, secondly with Sheepa and thirdly Tikal. Frak doesnt like me as i spoilt his fun the last time, i think he was trying to recruit, i wish i let him, it would have been fun to be a spy again lol but seriously i think they bear watching.

[Unibot]

Having worked with him in the UDL, I would defend Mahaj's genuineness to the grave.

[king j]

Accepted but i still like to form my own opinion on him

[Southern Bellz]

Having worked with him in the UDL, I would defend Mahaj's genuineness to the grave.

I have no doubt he is genuine to the defender cause, but just based on his history here, he comes off like one of the biggest opportunists I have ever seen. I think he has announced an intention to run for delegate twice, as well as ran a very odd platform for MoS considering this regions history then dropped out again.

[king j]

Having been head of security for many years in a few regions, i only trust a few people, these people know who they are, although some dont lol, i was fairly successful with this approach, so please forgive me if i throw a couple of names out there who others know better then me and ask a few questions about them.

[Belschaft]

No worries King.Mahaj is well known to me and Uni, being a ex-Dharman and UDL member. He's a bit noobish, but ultimately harmless. Sheepa, aka Lordeith of the South, I don't know as well but he's never done for anything to make me suspect him.Tikal on the other hand is a special case, in that she is a raider, but I doubt she'd do anything. As I've said, me being delegate would be a big reason why she wouldn't, but there's also the fact that LWU has no chance of holding down a feeder, and for as long as they try all their WA's would be held up.

[king j]

I dont think there is a Raider region out there that could hold a feeder, well not with out the help of more raiders and another feeder region, maybe bellz could help me with that. while Frak is about i will restrict my trust to who i know no disrepect to anyone but thats my job.

[Antariel]

Is it worth considering all the stuff on pointmen?Supposedly 5 in the region, if I'm reading it right, three frak trusts, two not sure of.If the frak = A/S idea holds true, surely one of the 'not sure of' is me after my sympathy to the AS ticket? But Frak as a separate entity remains highly hostile to Antariel.Thoughts? Can we work out who Frak believes he has won over?

[Belschaft]

The two he didn't trust are, I assume, Hilville and Sheepa, who he recruited via TG but sent everything they got of him strait to me.As for the other three, I'm not sure if they exist or not. If they do, they're probably not on the forums and just tarting.