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Ladies and Gentlemen of the South Pacific.
Continuing of my feelings that our defensive alliances are lacking. The MoS and I have again been seeking other interested parties.
Therefore, Invoking article 18.2 of the Charter (and article 16.4), I have negotiated a Mutual Protection Pact with Catlandatopia. The text is below:
Quote:NON-AGGRESSION PACT BETWEEN THE SOUTH PACIFIC AND CATLANDATOPIA
Section 1 - Definitions
For the purposes of this Treaty, the following definitions apply:
1) A Signatory is defined as the government of a region that has signed this Treaty.
2) A Province of a Signatory Region is defined as a region whose foreign policy is legally subordinated to a Signatory Region either by statute or by treaty, and with the other Signatory having been informed of that status.
3) Military operation is defined as an attempt of any kind to change the UN Delegacy of a region other than by a legal process of that region.
Section 2 - Non Aggression
1) A Signatory shall not engage in any military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
2) A Signatory shall not support in any way, directly or indirectly, military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
3) A Signatory shall not engage in subversive espionage mission against the other Signatory.
4) The Signatory may engage in military operations to support the military forces of another Signatory
Section 3 - Violation and Nullification
1) This Treaty is rendered null and void with immediate effect if any Signatory violates the other Signatory's laws or statutes, or violates any provision of this Treaty.
2) This treaty can only be nullified by military operation conducted by one side against the other.
Again, I encourage you to ask questions of the MoS and myself.
<del>One question that I do have, is there a different timeline for non-aggression pacts then treaties?</del>
Under direction of the Minister of Justice, this pact has gone to vote. <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showtopic=7926'>Vote Here</a>
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I don't see why there would be
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Who are catlandatopia? Never heard of them...
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Quote:Who are catlandatopia? Never heard of them...
They are formerly a crasher region, but in recent months have reformed and become more centrist. I have worked with Shell, the Queen of Catlandatopia, and she has always been very professional with me.
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Under the direction of the Minister of Justice, this pact has gone to vote. <a class='bbc_url' href='http://z1.invisionfree.com/forums/theSPacific/index.php?showtopic=7953'>Vote Here</a>
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Quote:1) A Signatory shall not engage in any military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
2) A Signatory shall not support in any way, directly or indirectly, military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
Hypothetically speaking, if they were to invade one of our allies wouldn't this forbid us to help that ally's defence against them?
I think that is a valid question, and I motion that the vote on this be halted, and only restarted when all questions are answered.
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Quote:<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >1) A Signatory shall not engage in any military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
2) A Signatory shall not support in any way, directly or indirectly, military operations against the military forces of another Signatory.
Hypothetically speaking, if they were to invade one of our allies wouldn't this forbid us to help that ally's defence against them?
</blockquote> I agree that it is a valid question. However, I also believe the advantage of having a treaty with Catlandatopia (CLT) outweighs the disadvantages.
CLT currently maintains some raider ties, including treaties. If any (or all) raider group decides to attack us, CLT will be forced to go along with them and attack us. With this treaty, it prevents about 40 UN nations going against Fudgie, and <em class='bbc'>could</em> (yes could, not will, as the way the document is written up) provide us those 40 to support Fudgie.
Regarding current alliances, I'm not entirely certain anymore that they will support us if we ask them to. And currently we only have 2 alliances right now (the TP one is waiting till the other 2 get through the vote).
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CLT has suggested the following change, in response to Bai Lo and Tsrill's concerns.
Quote:) A Signatory shall not engage in any military operations against the military forces of another Signatory for purposes of Imperialist expansion. Action against the other shall void this treaty.
2) A Signatory shall not support in any way, directly or indirectly, military operations against the military forces of another Signatory, except in the instance of defending another ally. In that event, a vote shall be taken to determine whether the position of TSP is to aid CLT, defend the other ally, or remain neutral. That decision shall always remain the choice of soveriegn TSPÂ through democratic process. CLT likewise shall have the ability to decide it's position should the converse occur.
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Trust me on this one. You're going to want a good alliance with these guys. They're pretty elite.
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CLT has accepted the pact.
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