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  QUORUM: Strategic Arms Reduction
Posted by: Vibrant Coconuts - 03-20-2014, 08:41 AM - Forum: General Assembly - No Replies

Strategic Arms Reduction

A resolution to demonstrate that obnoxious trolls can write terrible resolutions too.

 

Category: Global Disarmament | Strength: Significant | Proposed by<strong>: [Image: chester_pearson__734403t2.jpg]A Dickhead</strong>

 

Description: <i>The World Assembly,</i>

 

<b>RECOGNIZING</b> that nuclear weapons are used in warfare,

 

<b>ACKNOWLEDGING</b> that nuclear weapons play a pivotal role in many nations deterrence policy,

 

<b>CONCERNED</b> that many nations maintain an over abundant strategic nuclear arsenal, which if utilized to their full extent in a military conflict would cause massive wide scale damage to nations not participating in said conflict ,

 

<b>ALARMED</b> that the use of nuclear weapons causes horrific damage to the surrounding environment, and massive unneeded civilian casualties, particularly when strategic nuclear weapons are utilized against population centres,

 

<b>FOR THE PURPOSES</b> of this resolution defines nuclear weapons into the following categories:
  • Strategic nuclear weapon as a nuclear weapon which is designed to be used on targets as part of a strategic plan, such as nuclear missile bases, military command centers and heavily populated civilian areas such as large towns and cities, delivered by either gravity bomb, or long range missile system,


  • Tactical nuclear weapon as a nuclear weapon which is designed to be used on a battlefield in military situations, delivered by gravity bomb, landmine, bomb, or short range rocket/missile system,


<b>The General Assembly</b>:

  1. Declares that member nations shall reduce their strategic nuclear arsenals to a minimum required to assure plausible and credible nuclear deterrence from hostile nations,


  2. Defines credible minimal nuclear deterrence as a nation possessing no more strategic nuclear weapons than is necessary to deter an adversary from attacking, without facing an unacceptable level of damage in return,


  3. Upholds member nations rights to possess tactical nuclear arsenals of a strength required to effectively pursue military campaigns which require the use of nuclear weapons to prosecute their military objectives,


  4. Requires member nations to submit to inspection of their nuclear weapons to ensure they are in full compliance with this act.




 

Forum thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic....9&t=230164

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  QUORUM: Universal Suffrage Act
Posted by: Vibrant Coconuts - 03-20-2014, 08:38 AM - Forum: General Assembly - Replies (1)

Universal Suffrage Act

A resolution to once more prove that Arse and Elbow has no clue what they're talking about.

 

Category: Furtherment of Democracy | Strength: Significant | Proposed by: <a class="" href="http://www.nationstates.net/nation=elke_and_elba">[Image: elke_and_elba__634643t2.jpg]Elke and Elba</a>

 

 

Description: ACKNOWLEDGING that the legitimacy of the government of each and every member state is determined by the will of all of its constituents citizens,

 

FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGING that an acknowledgement of such will is largely only possible through elections - of which results are determined by the votes of all of its citizens,

 

The World Assembly,

 

MANDATES that all citizens are allowed to vote in elections held in their respective states provided that the said citizen has:

  1. not been certified to be mentally incompetent to give any form of informed consent,

  2. attained the minimum age of voting,

  3. not been disenfranchised due to conviction of a criminal offence, and;

CLARIFIES that,

  1. nothing in this resolution forces member nations to hold elections where no elections are held,

  2. nothing in this resolution disallows member nations to extend suffrage to citizens and inhabitants not covered under this resolution, and,

  3. nothing in this resolution forcibly sets a minimum age of voting on member states, which are free to set one as the respective member states deem fit.

 



Forum thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic....9&t=287097

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  AT VOTE: Repeal "Rights & Duties of WA States"
Posted by: Vibrant Coconuts - 03-20-2014, 08:32 AM - Forum: General Assembly - Replies (16)

Repeal "Rights & Duties of WA States"

A resolution to again demonstrate that most WA regulars believe they are entitled to troll Auralia.

 

Category: Repeal | Resolution: GA#2 | Proposed by: <a class="" href="http://www.nationstates.net/nation=world_assembly_charter_working_group">[Image: world_assembly_charter_working_group__677592t2.jpg]World Assembly Charter Working Group</a>

 

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #2: Rights and Duties of WA States (Category: Political Stability; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

 

Argument: <i>Strongly affirming</i> the need for a World Assembly charter that clearly delineates the basic rights and responsibilities of World Assembly member states,

 

<i>Regretting</i> that the numerous flaws present in GAR #2, "Rights and Duties of WA States", necessitate its repeal,

 

<i>Condemning</i> the target resolution's morally repugnant conception of war, which is that war is permissible so long as it is consensual,

 

<i>Shocked</i> that this conception of war effectively legalizes armed conflict between two or more mutual aggressors, in which each party wishes to take control over the others’ territory, population or resources, because such a war is technically consensual,

 

<i>Appalled</i> that this conception of war also forbids most just wars, including peacemaking operations and humanitarian interventions, because not all parties consent to the conflict,

 

<i>Distressed</i> that the target resolution forbids nations from any unrequested intervention in the sovereign affairs of other nations, regardless of whether such intervention is justified, as in the case of peacemaking operations and humanitarian intervention,

 

<i>Alarmed</i> that the target resolution's requirement that resolutions be implemented in "good faith" is sufficiently vague as to permit the effective circumvention of resolutions through sincere yet invalid interpretations of resolutions, while prohibiting the World Assembly from passing a separate resolution governing the legitimate interpretation of resolutions,

 

<i>Concerned</i> that the target resolution prevents the World Assembly from taking or supporting any military action whatsoever, precluding the World Assembly from addressing violations of human rights or threats to international peace and security,

 

<i>Strongly hoping</i> that a replacement charter will soon be passed,

 

The General Assembly,

 

<i>Repeals</i> GAR #2, "Rights and Duties of WA States".

 



Forum thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic....9&t=262545

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  Welcome to TSP, Pierconium
Posted by: TSP Welcoming Committee - 03-20-2014, 08:30 AM - Forum: Welcoming Center - Replies (4)

Welcome to The South Pacific, Pierconium!

We are glad to have you here. Please tell us a little about yourself.

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  New Moderation Policies
Posted by: Hileville - 03-20-2014, 03:58 AM - Forum: Operations Center - Replies (3)

Below are the update moderation policies that will begin to be enforced on 3/27/14.

 

Section One - Board and Administration


"http://forums.thesouthpacific.org/" is the official forum of The South Pacific.


The South Pacific forum is to be administered by its administrators, global moderators, and forum moderators. Any member of the moderation team may issue informal warnings and formal warnings with predefined punishments; however the administration team take further undefined action when necessary following a discussion and vote on the matter.

Section Two - Warnings and Punishment


Each registered member of The South Pacific forums is entitled to a minimum of three formal warnings, subsequent to a prior informal warning. Informal warnings carry no punishment, but once an informal warning has been issued then formal warnings with punishment may be imposed. Informal warnings expire one month after issue, and a further informal warning must be issued before formal warnings can be gained.

 

Upon receipt of their first formal warning a members account will be suspended for 24 hours. Upon receipt of a second formal warning a members account will be suspended for 72 hours. Upon receipt of a third formal warning a members account will be suspended for 168 hours. Further infraction after the third formal warning will lead to the indefinite suspension of a members account, followed by a determination of punishment, up to and including a permanent ban from the forums, by the full administration team.


Members may receive informal and formal warnings for the following activities;

  • Spamming: Posting meaningless or irrelevant content in a thread.
  • Inappropriate Language: Using explicit language extensively and in an inappropriate manner.​
  • Threadjacking: Discussing something in a serious thread that is irrelevant to the topic at hand.​
  • Abusive Behavior: Flaming, disrespecting the privacy of another user, and trolling.
  • Defamation: Issuing false or otherwise unproven statements about an individual or group of individuals.
Section Three - Forum Security and Community Protection

 

The admin team may take further extraordinary action against members who threaten the security of the forums or forum community. Members believed to constitute such a threat will have their accounts suspended prior to an admin discussion and vote upon the matter.

 

Members may be deemed such a threat based upon the following activities;
  • Posting gore, pornographic content, violent content, and material which violates the federal law of the real-life United States of America.
  • Promoting activities which are illegal in the real-life United States or are widely illegal internationally.
  • Posting personal information about another user of the board without their consent, excluding such information needed to identify a nation or account as a specific individual or individuals, ie; IP addresses.
  • Attempting to hack or otherwise compromise the security of these forums, user accounts, or other internet property in general.
  • Attempting to circumnavigate forum security by hiding or otherwise masking IP addresses and other means of identification.
  • ​Threatening to physically harm another user.
Section Four - Appeal System

 

Appeals to administrative action will be handled in accordance with Article 4.4 of the South Pacific Charter.

 
Section Five - Alteration

 

These moderation policies may be altered by the administration team at any point in time; such alterations take effect one week after their announcement.

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  Reporting Content
Posted by: Hileville - 03-20-2014, 03:57 AM - Forum: Operations Center - No Replies

Why should I report a post or private message?

There are times when content is posted that breaks the moderation policies.  This isn't always seen by our moderators.  Reading through every thread can be very time consuming and things just get overlooked.  Reporting content you believes breaks the forum rules is the easiest way for our moderators to evaluate the post and take action if needed.  Reporting this content will also allow for a more fair application of the moderation policies.

 

Private messages can break forum moderation rules as well.  Yes TSP has the NSA and all but our NSA doesn't read through your private conversations.  You can report private conversations that break forum rules as well and we will evaluate the content and let you know the result.

 

How do I report a post?

On every post you will see REPORT.  If you hit this button it will take you to a page that asks you to enter your report.  This report should contain why you believe this post is in violation of the moderation policies.  Once you have completed your report hit the SUBMIT REPORT button.  Your report has now been sent to the moderation staff for review.

 

What happens next?

A forum moderator will review the report and make a decision on whether or not this post warrants any moderator action in accordance with the forum moderation policies.  All warnings will be announced in the thread in which contained the original post.

 

If you have any questions about this article please feel free to post.

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  Minister of the Army: End of Term Address to the Assembly
Posted by: Southern Bellz - 03-20-2014, 01:19 AM - Forum: Assembly of The South Pacific - Replies (9)

Hello Everyone,

 

I hope at this point introductions are no longer needed.  But I am Southern Bellz, former almost every cabinet position, former two time delegate, and current Minister of the Army.

I wanted to make an address, and take the time to talk about the speculation about what I will do next term.  

 

I consider this term to be one of my best terms in TSP.  When I took over as the Minister of the Army, the NSA was in terrible shape:  It was tragically inactive with almost no structure intact, the code of conduct was being ignored and had multiple out of date requirements, the general corps was non-existent, hell people were even arguing if an independent military is possible.

 

Well one term later, and we have had countless deployments.  Our first deployment was in support of The Red Fleet’s refound of a racist region.  If there is one thing I want to leave on the NSA, it is that we do not need to take the wheel all the time.  We can have a major impact on the NS world just by supporting sometime.  Countless nations messaged me (mostly from TRF/leftist regions) over this operation telling me all about how happy they were to see TSP taking a stand against racism.

 

 Our flagship deployment was in Fascist, which was a very complicated operation, but one that directly put a halt to Nazi aggression and expansion.

 

We took action against a region who’s delegate leaked NSA information and having their delegate declare TSP his enemy. 

 

We partook in warzone operations with fellow GCRS, we supported liberations, we had partial deployments.  The list goes on!  We had a great term!  We have Generals!  We have a bunch of great involved active troops!

This term has led to the strengthening of ties with many regions.  Some already allies, some new friends, and some old ones.

 

This leads to addressing the speculation about what I will be doing in the next term.

 

I will not be seeking re-election as the Minister of the Army.  Nor will I be running for delegate or any other cabinet positions.  The only elected position I have an interest in is Vice Delegate- so anyone who has an exciting platform for delegate, send it to me, and I will be more than willing to back the person with the most creative and engaging platform.

 

If I get no interest in that offer or choose not to run, I will still be active as a citizen and consider deputy work. 

 

In closing think it is very important that The South Pacific continues this tradition, of being a region that stands up against aggressive hate groups, and a region that doesn’t pick sides for the sake of picking sides.  Put this community first, and we will continue to be the best region in NationStates.

 

I want to thank anyone who supported my vision and to every single NSA member who came on an operation.  This term’s success was a result of your work and dedication to my vision, even when it did not make sense.

My final weeks in office will be used for administration and housekeeping to ensure the next MoA is ready to go from day one.

 

Last of all, join the freakin NSA guys.  It's fun!

 

True Blue,

Southern Bellz

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  The Userite Myth (by New Pacific Order)
Posted by: Elegarth - 03-19-2014, 08:33 PM - Forum: The Pacific - Replies (31)

The Userite Myth

 
 
Countless theorists, politicians and activists have told us that the ultimate delineation of nations within this realm can be categorized within two broad but distinct frameworks: feederite and userite.  Further demarcation and nomenclature have adjusted these overarching archetypes with terms such as defender or invader, or most recently, independent and imperialist, but the concept remains the same.  Some have sought to provoke these portrayals into coherent political agendas and philosophies, to greater and lesser success.  Proper thought or manifesto aside, these have been nothing more than platitudes created to either uphold or break down the status quo.  Many have been structured around specific groups or regions, giving credit to individuals for feats that, while monumental, were nothing more than the perpetuation of an erroneous mindset.  The reason that such theoretical conflicts between these separate mentalities have occurred historically is that the underlying mythos has created cognitive dissonance within the collective gestalt of our nations.

 
It is time for a paradigm shift.  The myth that has been perpetuated since antiquity within this realm is based upon an incorrect understanding of the individual nation’s position within the overall structure.  All nations are created equivalently and arise within those regions specified as “feeders” upon their initial foundation.  There are no exceptions to this fundamental fact.  If a nation ceases to exist and is resurrected, it then arrives in one of the regions designated as “sinker” but this is not an instance of foundation, it is an instance of rebirth, and therefore provides a separate and secondary dynamic.  Therefore, all nations, at some point, even those created specifically for the purpose of departure from the region of its birth, are feederite.  At the most basic level of classification, all nations, regardless of size, age or location, have been and always will be, to some extent, the product of a feeder mentality.  There is no such thing as a pure userite nation.  It is a matter of self-delusion for any nation to deny its heritage as a child of the feeders.

 
Therefore, it is necessary to define the feederite diaspora.  Since it is a given then that not every nation left the feeders voluntarily, or that every nation, though equivalent in creation, has sought equivalence in action and position, there are some levels of differentiation to be clarified.  First, those nations of the so-called enforced diaspora, who met the lords of the Rejected Realms against their will, have a certain predisposition against the idea of feederite rehabilitation.  While it is certainly correct to state that some instances of forced relocation are without merit, it is equally true to state the converse.  Consequently, the separation of these two dejected parties is insubstantial when measured against the totality of the diaspora as a whole.  All nations that have been removed via ejection from a feeder by a Delegate, regardless of circumstance, are part of the enforced diaspora.  And yet, they are still feederite at their core.

 
Likewise, those nations that have been disillusioned with the government that they encountered upon creation or mislead by the barrage of invitations that they receive upon conception are also feederite in origin.  Disillusionment stems from a lack of understanding while the misleading of nations by those that have already gone into the diaspora before also evolves from this same misperception.  These nations, which have left of their own volition, are part of the coerced diaspora.  Often, those of the coerced have been prompted to action by the enforced.  The enforced prey upon the coerced to the detriment of the whole.  Through this cyclical pattern of denial-delusion-deceit, we find the impetus for all divergence within the Nation States world.  The bulk of nations within this realm dwelling outside of the feeders are part of the coerced, living a lie manufactured and fed to them by the enforced.  They utilize this lie in order to create great personal power, build large temples to themselves, or some self-aggrandizing political hokum, in order to wage war upon that which they left behind.

 
There is a further group of nations belonging to the diaspora, those that are mere puppets of either the coerced or enforced, bereft of autonomy and utilized for a multitude of tasks which enslave them to their more prodigious masters.  For the purpose of this study, such entities hold no value beyond that of placeholder.  In the rare instance that such a nation serves a purpose expressly independent of its diasporic progenitor the nation would invariably find itself within one of the preceding categorical classifications unless it was itself feederite in position.  Such incongruities will be addressed separately, however.  In the present vein, notwithstanding uncommon examples, there is therefore only one overarching classification of nation: feederite.  Those nations that are part of the diaspora in any one of the two main segmentations are simply displaced feederite constituents.

 
Since no differentiation between those nations within the feeders and those without can be made outside of pseudo-philosophic propaganda effected by the enforced diaspora and taken up or misconstrued by the coerced, it stands to all reason and common sense that no political differentiation can logically exist either.  Hence, all supposed userite, invader, imperialist, independent, etc. etc. ad nauseam, justifications for separation from and opposition to feederite institutions are invalid.  If no such delineation can exist then no antagonism to these fabricated separations can exist.  The enforced diaspora has perpetuated a false-mentality of obstruction in the face of their shortcomings or misunderstandings.  They have utilized the coerced as tools while obfuscating the reality of their situation.  In short, the userite myth has been developed and cultivated in order to destabilize the feeders and propagate a war between prodigals and their homelands.

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  Modernization and Renewal
Posted by: Sandaoguo - 03-19-2014, 02:26 AM - Forum: Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Replies (9)

THE SOUTH PACIFIC

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

From the Office of the Minister

 

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

 

After consultation with the Cabinet, deputies, and former Ministers of Foreign Affairs, I have reached the conclusion that the existing organization and practices of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are outdated and are in need of adaptation and modernization. Effective immediately, the following changes will take place:
  • The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will end its practice of disseminating monthly updates on important events and happenings in The South Pacific, commonly referred to as “Foreign Affairs Updates” or “FA updates,” to each region with which we maintain a forum-based embassy or consulate.
  • The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will still write a monthly update, but it will be published in a few selected central venues, namely the NationStates Gameplay forum and the Ministry’s own forum.
  • All members of the Diplomatic Corps of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are honorably discharged from their duties, and the Diplomatic Corps is suspended pending reorganization and reimagining of its duties and purposes.
These changes were not made lightly or without much consideration. The central issue that catalyzed these changes was the difficulty multiple previous Ministers have had in maintaining an active and engaged diplomatic corps. When the Ministry’s diplomats are not active, their responsibilities are shifted upwards to deputy ministers and the ultimately the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

 

The serious difficulties in recruiting and maintaining the diplomatic corps, and the lack of deputy minister applicants, means the Minister of Foreign Affairs is tasked with writing the updates themselves, disseminating them to all of our embassies abroad, along with the other duties of staying up-to-date with the developments in all of our partner regions. In combination with the Minister’s political responsibilities as the lead foreign policy chief and counsel, the tasks shifted towards one person can be too great and too taxing.

 

Additionally, the purpose of the monthly update is to deliver important news at least once a month to our partner regions. Recent advancements and innovations in NationStates news media have rendered this job somewhat redundant. While the Ministry will still write monthly updates because independent news media does not cover all events in The South Pacific, the innovations of the news media will be adopted. Namely, newspapers and editorial magazines have large readerships in the NationStates Gameplay forum. If the purpose of the monthly update is to deliver important news about our region, then one of the goals should be reaching as many readers as possible. Adopting the publishing methods of successful news media will garner more readers than the current practice of posting monthly updates in largely unread and under-utilized embassy sub-forums.

 

Because the primary practical duty of the diplomatic corps was to disseminate the monthly update to their assigned regions, the end of that dissemination system means the diplomatic corps will become less and less necessary. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will still be in need of people knowledgeable about our regional partners. The diplomatic corps will be reimagined into a smaller, more streamlined, purpose- and goal-driven institution. Details of these changes will be forthcoming in the next couple of weeks. Current members of the diplomatic corps will be given appropriate opportunities to continue their work with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

 

I realize that this may affect our embassies and consulates abroad. Many regions conduct activity checks and remove embassies and consulates that are inactive. We will likely lose several embassies to those requirements. To be clear, the loss of forum embassies will not harm our regional interests or our foreign affairs. Very little diplomacy occurs through forum embassies. Those activities are mostly conducted through better real-time means, such as IRC and Skype. It’s the opinion of the Ministry that the optical politics are less important than some people believe, and that our regional partners ultimately will understand our reasons, if they do not outright agree with them. There has been, over the past year, a general decline in the use of forum embassies, and this is the natural conclusion of that decline.

 

It is my hope, and the hope of the Cabinet, that these changes will result a slimmer, more functional Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

 

Thank you for your support,

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  Election Fever: Friendship and Cooperation 2.0 - With Hileville!
Posted by: Unibot - 03-19-2014, 02:13 AM - Forum: NationStates Discussion Center - No Replies

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ELECTION FEVER: Friendship and Cooperation 2.0 - With Hileville!
FEATURE | MCMASTERDONIA AND UNIBOT


Unibot steps onto the neatly prepared soundstage, under the vintage colours and curtains stolen from a bygone era. He sits beside the "Lion's Den", where his cohost, McMasterdonia and the guest contributor, Hileville lay, curling their tails and growling with impatience.

"What? Don't look at me -- you were the one who was late..." whispers Unibot defensively.

His co-host growled.

"I just had to go to the loo..." said the commentator under his breath. It could be said he was pissing away a lot of his talent these days.

The teleprompters began to roll and the commentators took their positions around the late night roundtable -- one unlucky staff member tries to puff bronze makeup on Unibot (to meet his extensive demands), before running offstage in a hurry.

The controller gives the panel their cue: "Election Fever" was LIVE
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"LIIIVVVVVVVVVEEE, IT'S ELECTION FEVER FROM THE SEVENTH CIRCLE OF THE REJECTED REALMS. YOUR CO-HOSTS FOR TONIGHT? THE ONE, THE LONELY, IT'S UNIBOT...."

Unibot: Welcome to the Rejected Realms Media Centre for the very first episode of "Election Fever". I'm your co-host, Unibot.

"SERVING AS HIS CO-HOST, IT'S THE NORTH PACIFIC'S THUNDA' FROM DOWN UNDA', MCMASTERDONIA...."

Mcmasterdonia: Thank you and it is my pleasure to be here today. Together, Unibot and I will be analysing major elections across NationStates. Unibot and I provided the North Pacific with some of the finest of entertainment when we butted heads at election time, we decided to allow others to enjoy the show.

Unibot: Together we could either make a bad buddy cop show or a political talk show ripe with balanced discussion and speculation. We went with the latter.

Our guest commentator for today is Hileville.

Mcmasterdonia: Welcome Hileville! Thanks for joining us on our very first episode.

Hileville: Thanks for having me.

Unibot: Hileville is a fantastic choice since our topic is the upcoming Elections in The South Pacific. Nobody knows more about winning elections in The South Pacific than Hileville.

How many elections have you won, out of curosity?

Hileville: In The South Pacific? Not that many. Five or Six.

Unibot: That's almost as many scandals as I've had in The South Pacific...

Hileville and McMasterdonia laugh with the audience as Unibot takes a drink of his water, suppressing his inner frustration and angst under a neutral face.

Mcmasterdonia: Haha, Very true. Okay Hileville, if you don't mind we will proceed to our first question. Will there be Chief Justice Elections?

Hileville: I don't believe there will be. We have been working very hard in the Assembly to give a much needed makeover to our Justice system. The bill is finished and has been motioned to a vote.

Unibot: If I'm correct, this new bill pushes elections for Chief Justice to a later date?

Hileville: Not the actual reform for the Court. There is currently another bill which will move the Justice elections back. We would also not be electing a Chief Justice but a panel of 3 Justices who would select a Chief after they are elected.

Unibot: Oh alright that's cool - I got those confused then.

Mcmasterdonia: This is another step in a long line of judicial reform. Do you think that The South Pacific is taking the right step now? When I first saw the South Pacific they had only the Minister of Justice, it has gradually changed over the past two years but people were still relatively unhappy with it.

Hileville: I do. A lot of work went into this new system and it is by far the way to move forward.

Unibot: I still think Belschaft got rid of it because I kept winning Minister of Justice - and he wanted me out of cabinet.

Unibot grins boyishly.

Hileville: Nah. The Justice system in The South Pacific has always been a sticking point for citizens. This pre-dates my involvement in the game.

Mcmasterdonia: I believe that Drugged Monkeys or HEM was the last Minister of Justice?

Hileville: DM would have been the first Minister of Justice that was actually more like an Attorney General.

Mcmasterdonia: But didn't HEM swap from being Minister of Justice to Chief Justice to start Milograd's trial?

Hileville: Yes HEM was the last Minister of Justice and first Chief Justice.

Mcmasterdonia: That was the last case I remember in that area, it was a particularly annoying one as a jury had to be chosen and it was too difficult to pick a jury that was fully impartial and unaware of the situation Tongue

Unibot: Oh god, the jury system.

Mcmasterdonia: It was a guaranteed verdict either way though, obviously. I believe Milograd described it as Pacifican justice at the time. Karpathos was also a strong critic.

Unibot shudders and motions towards a not-so-subtle segue.

Unibot: Speaking of another sticking point. Last election, there was a lot of debate over lobbying - should it be legal, illegal, semi-legal, should be it be.. whatever. Is lobbying going to play a role in the next elections? We haven't really seem any of the reforms to address concerns over lobbying come to fruition.

Mcmasterdonia: Lobbying has become a big debate in a lot of the GCR regions recently.

Hileville: I think it will. It usually always does. My issue with it is when multiple people are lobbying for one candidate and send multiple messages to the same person.

Mcmasterdonia: So you have no issue with lobbying as an action? Provided that it doesn't get spammy.

Hileville: As long as it isn't spammy, I'm generally okay with it for elections.

Mcmasterdonia: I think it can be quite a complex issue. I mean in GCRs in particular there are often a lot of new and uninformed nations. The simple act of asking them to vote a certain way could be very effective depending on the individual.

Furthermore, people form strong relationships with their friends and I sometimes feel that friends do not question their friends actions enough. Which is a bad thing for democracy.

Unibot: On the flipside, challenging friendships often requires explicit lobbying. I think the alternative concern though is when you have new and uninformed nations, the incumbent factor is very strong. Lobbying is one of the few ways in which players can challenge incumbents. Unless an incumbent is just massively incompetent.

Hileville: To me it can actually be very counter-productive. If you lobby someone who doesn't want to be lobbied you could just as easliy turn them against you or your candidate.

Mcmasterdonia: Yes, I would agree.

Unibot: I would agree. I only ever lobby if the person is already voting for the candidate I really don't want to win. You can't lose then. That's World Assembly lobbying tactics, 101.

Mcmasterdonia: Well Unibot, I was just recalling the 2012 Delegate election in the North Pacific

Unibot: I wasn't involved in that, right?

Mcmasterdonia: Of course you were! Couldn't help yourself.

Unibot: Oh, yes, I did.

Mcmasterdonia: You came out very strong in favour of Tim, to the point I would say that it damaged his election chances....

Mcmasterdonia: But this is why lobbying and campaigning for a candidate has to be done very carefully. For one matter it can look like those who hold influence in the region are interfering (for instance say if I strongly campaigned for a small set of candidates in The North Pacific while Delegate). But if you push a negative style of campaigning that can damage the candidates chances quite badly...

Unibot: Yes.

Mcmasterdonia: And I think that Tim suffered for that reason.

Unibot: I disagree, I think Tim lost because he was running against *McMasterdonia*. I do think, however, politics in NationStates tends to work often like the old adage involving honey and trapping flies. So I think you're right to some degree.

Honestly it should have been a tighter battle between you and other neutral talent like Kingsborough - but experience won out there. Tim, even on paper, only had so far reach in The North, after months and months of a defender-leaning, Eluvatar-led North Pacific.

Mcmasterdonia: Sure - there were other factors at play as well. But I think that nearly everyone expected that election to be a lot closer than it was. Should we expect negative campaigning in The South Pacific's elections, Hileville?

Hileville: In the current system I would say no. It is always possible and depending on the candidates it could happen.

Unibot: With these upcoming elections, I'd like to hear what candidates we think will run? Who will win? Who do want to see win?


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SPECULATION: DELEGATE / VICE DELEGATE ELECTIONS

Unibot: Let's start with the Delegate / Vice Delegate ticket.

Hileville: In this race Escade and Kris will run for a second term. They had a rocky first term with a lot of turnover on the Cabinet. Somewhere along the line the general focus seemed to switch from friendship and cooperation to a not so nice environment. That has improved a lot and I expect they will get a second term in a close race.

I expect there to be a solid challenger in this race. Rebel-topia or Belschaft would probably be at the top of the list.

Mcmasterdonia: A couple of weeks ago, Escade had told me that she was not going to run again. I thought that was unlikely, and I do agree that they will be seeking a second term. The accusations of being a sleeper agent have been hard on her, but it will be interesting to see how she handles herself in an election campaign with a strong challenger.

Hileville: Rebel-topia would certainly have the better chance at winning if he chose a good strong newer citizen as his Vice Delegate. That will be interesting and this really the race to watch.

Mcmasterdonia: I would agree. I think the general perception was that Belchaft's last term was a bit mediocre and quiet. I was surprised that Rebeltopia hadn't made a serious run for Delegate before now, I always expected him to take the seat at some point.

This is one particular area of the elections that I had thought would get a bit nasty - there have been some serious disagreements in TSP over the past term of government.

Unibot: I think you will see Escade and Kringelia run again on the same ticket. Escade ran unopposed last time - I don't think that'll be the case this time, since it's been a rough term for them. The real question is who will run against them? I could certainly see some fresh blood like a Arbiter08 / Farengeto ticket running, but the real challenge for them will be the "old guard" -- the pro-TNI, pro-Independent crowd that seems to be louder and bolder than ever in The South Pacific.

I expect you will see Belschaft run as either Delegate or Vice Delegate. Take for example, Tsunamy / Belschaft. Belschaft / Southern Bellz or Southern Bellz / Belschaft.

I don't see HEM running. In a dream world, I'd like to see Kris and Escade switch places. Kris has showed a lot of leadership chops during this term and Escade would have the cultural skills to be able to really serve as a strong Vice.

Mcmasterdonia: From discussions that I have had over the past few weeks, I thought the swapping of places was a real possibility. I don't believe that Kris wanted to take the seat quiet yet and was pushing Escade to go for another term and to maintain her resolve to get things done.

Hileville: There were some people that thought the ticket should have been reversed in the first election. I don't see that happening yet but could be very interesting. A reversed ticket could see the same result they had last time.

Unibot: I don't see it happening, I'm just calling it as it is: Kris has shown he can bring the region together more - Escade organizes the region well, but she doesn't control her temper.

Mcmasterdonia: Ultimately they are quite a good team when it works for them.

Unibot: Yes, they are.

Mcmasterdonia: But again, as has already been mentioned it has been a rocky first term. Some believe that the splitting of the region on certain issues has been intentional to weaken the overall government. I do not believe that, as I faced similar criticism when I was Vice Delegate and Delegate.

The best thing for Escade to do is to continue doing what she believes is right, if people want to scream about her being a puppet or a plant then she should prove them wrong through her hard work.

Unibot: What do you think about my theories about Belschaft? You said you thought he had a mediocre term (I agree) -- will that discourage him from running again?

Hileville: I don't think it will. Belschaft usually doesn't like staying out of Government all that long. I think he knew his last term wasn't the best which is why he decided not to run for re-election just days before the election started.

Mcmasterdonia: I think you're right. I think that it is likely that Belschaft will run again, either as Delegate or Vice Delegate. I think a Rebeltopia / Belschaft or a Southern Bellz / Belshaft ticket would be a very strong opponent for Escade / Kris.

Unibot: Agreed. From what I know of him - a bad term is just an excuse to try for a better one. A Rebeltopia / Belschaft ticket also seems reasonable.

Mcmasterdonia: Otherwise he may run for one of the other positions available - Chair of the Assembly is an old favorite for him.

Ultimately though, Belschaft has always been particularly strong on matters of Foreign Affairs. When he was Delegate last time he was very strong in that field, but I feel that he slipped a bit at home for activity reasons.

Hileville: I don't think a ticket with Belschaft on it will be all that strong. He has exhausted a lot of political capital in TSP since the current term started.

Mcmasterdonia: Hmm, probably a good point Hile. Belschaft has never been one to shy away from a political scrap and he obviously wasn't afraid to use his political capital for something he believed in.

Unibot: I think he's still got a lot of diehard fans as Article 9 has shown. But his ticket will be used more for his supporters to leverage Escade to meet their demands more.

Hileville: I think there is difference between those who supported his bill and those who support Belschaft. They are not one and the same.

Mcmasterdonia: Even if he does not run for Delegate or Vice Delegate, he will have a strong place in the election regardless. He always does.

Unibot: I don't think many people support Belschaft - many people will use him though and he will use them. That's how his game works. Bit of a tin-hat theory though.

Mcmasterdonia: Just a tad Wink

Unibot blushes.

Unibot: It's what I'm here for - levity and general paranoia.
 
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SPECULATION: CHAIR OF THE ASSEMBLY

Unibot: What do we think about with the Chair of the Assembly?

Mcmasterdonia: Well I don't think that Rebeltopia is going to run for another term as Chair of the Assembly. I think this position is more likely to go to someone like Belschaft, or possibly Hileville. Belschaft is traditionally known as the go to guy for The South Pacific's laws which was why he was popular in that position.

Unibot: I think Rebeltopia has had a short term - he'll want to continue along and people will give him the benefit of the doubt. It's a lighter job that requires a lot of activity - I would like to see Hileville run for it too, to be perfectly honest.

Mcmasterdonia: Depends if he is interested in moving into the Delegacy or Vice Delegacy, I suppose.

Unibot: You're right that Rebeltopia may want to switch around and risk running on a ticket with Belschaft.

Mcmasterdonia: If he is content in his current position then I would expect him to do well on voting day.

Unibot: Yes I think if he runs, he'll be rubber-stamped.

Mcmasterdonia: He is a long time resident of the South Pacific and is well known for his dedication and military service to the region. I think he will be very popular with voters whatever position he runs for.

Unibot: Yeah we need more positions for scum bags and partisans. Not nearly enough of those.

Hileville: I can see Rebeltopia running for another term here. He does the job well and if he doesn't make a run for the Delegate/Vice-Delegate this is probably where he currently fits in best. Belschaft could be a possibility but I honestly want to see either a newer citizen or a veteran who hasn't had all that much Cabinet service run. Tsu would be a great fit here.

Loh who just returned to TSP would also be an awesome fit for the Chair. I do have a soft spot for this position as it is where I started in TSP.

Unibot: It also is a good place to build credibility.


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SPECULATION: MINISTER OF THE ARMY

Mcmasterdonia: What about the Minister of the Army?

Hileville: I think Southern Bellz has been a really good fit here. With the General Corps not beginning to function again the NSA could really be going places. I fully expect another term from Southern Bellz which could very well be his best yet.

Unibot: I think Southern Bellz will have another go with it - his platform has largely been popular with the Independents. If he doesn't run, Cormac Stark could run on an independent focus -- he's starting to build quite a reputation for running GCR invader-leaning militaries in Balder and Osiris.

I would like to see Geomania as Minister of Army, but it probably isn't in the cards. An experienced defender who would balance the vision of NSA away from the full independent focus we've seen. Former ADN, RRA. Current NSA. He would know what he's doing if he was elected. But a long shot for sure and unlikely this time around.

Hileville: Cormac could be an interesting contender here. I think if Geomania hadn't just been appointed to the General Corps a campaign would be more probable.

Mcmasterdonia: Hmm, I will just add that I think Southern Bellz is likely to run again and win. I'm not expecting much competition here, but it would be interesting if there was.

Unibot: I'll add that if Southern Bellz and Cormac Stark BOTH ran, Geomania could stand a chance. Via the spoiler effect. But I don't think Cormac Stark lacks the confidence in Southern Bellz to run against him.


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SPECULATION: MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

Unibot: The big question of the night is Foreign Affairs, as always. Who is going to run? Who is going to win? Who do you want to see win?

Hileville: Glen Rhodes really impressed me this term. I hope he runs for a full term. This is where I can see Belschaft or HEM running. I think both overall like this area more than any else. If Glen Rhodes runs again I would certainly put money on his re-election though.

Unibot: I don't think you will see HEM run again - not when he lost for like the third time in a row and admitted he didn't have the confidence of the electorate.

Mcmasterdonia: Yeah, I think a HEM run is very unlikely. I would agree that Glen Rhodes really impressed a lot of people who had their doubts about him taking up the position. I think his reelection should be fairly straight forward.

Unibot: I'll be frank, Glen-Rhodes is a long-time friend of mine and I campaigned hard to see him elected as Minister of Foreign Affairs because I knew he'd be great in that position and he wanted to serve in Foreign Affairs. I don't think he let me down, he's shown himself to be a very bureaucratic and mature official - more of an Eluvatar, than a Unibot, despite his critics. I don't think this will discourage the independents from running against him however.

I could see Cormac Stark running here or Ravenclaw. But I think there's a good possibility that Glen will be able to take them this time around.

Hileville: I don't see Raven running while being Delegate and Scribe of Foreign Affairs in Osiris. That would be a conflict of interest that he wouldn't want to get into.

Unibot: I think he could spin any criticism of the Conflict of Interests as mad tin-foil paranoia and Anti-Osirian sentiments. It could be a benefit to his campaign. We've seen that before with HEM and his involvement in both Europeia and The South Pacific.

Mcmasterdonia: I think Raven running is very unlikely. He is very busy with his current regional positions and he won't want to add to that burden. Cormac is also very unlikely to run for office. I think he is similar to Raven, he is burdened with responsibilities at this point and won't want to take on another role. He is not the type of guy to take a position just for the title and he'd rather it be done well I think.

Hileville: I don't see Cormac as a possible candidate either at this time.


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SPECULATION: MINISTER OF REGIONAL AFFAIRS

Mcmasterdonia: On that note, I think it is safe to move on to Regional Affairs. Who are the likely contenders here?

Unibot: The thing with Regional Affairs is - it's the position that time and time again gets used to put the new players in when we don't know where to put them. It then gets unsupplied with resources, the newbie Minister gets quiet and the Delegate tromps all over their agenda. This isn't just a criticism of this term, but in general, what I've seen from Regional Affairs. Arbiter08 could definetely run again, UnitedSolarRepublic and Horse could contest his leadership for sure.

Who would I like to see win? Vibrant Coconuts. Aka. Gruenberg. He'd be loud and stick up for his department. And he's a creative force who would organize those affairs, I think. But I don't see him running or winning.

Mcmasterdonia: I am unfamiliar with Vibrant Coconuts. I think that is a reasonably fair assesment, the position does usually go to a newer person. I am unsure about the Delegate trampling all over the agenda though. I would expect Arbiter08 to run for this position again and do quite well.

Hileville: Here is where I see Farengeto making a run to get into Cabinet. I expect Arbiter08 to run for what would be his first full term. Farengeto has expessed interest in jumping to the Cabinet from the Courts. I think this would be the most logical choice for him. UnitedSolar Republic and Horse would also be good candidates. Horse has had a rocky history in TSP so far which is a little disappointing for me.

I think he could be a great member of the Cabinet but I don't think he has fond where he really fits in yet. I don't see Vibrant Coconuts as an option.

Unibot: I could see Farengeto running for Regional Affairs too, Hile. I also don't see Vibrant Coconuts running - I'm just saying I think he would shake things up.


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Unibot: Let's talk about campaign points -- what are the incumbents going to be running on? What are the challengers going to be running on? Where are their strengths and weaknesses?

Is the old "Friendship and Cooperation" mantra dead in the water? Or is it going to be revived?

Mcmasterdonia: Obviously the incumbents will be running on their experience and positive service in the position. There will be a lot of talk about hard work and high levels of activity and it will be up to the voters to determine if those claims are accurate.

Escade may bring that back up as a pipe dream for her term, but I don't think it will be a major part.

Unibot: I think the major challenge will be defending their accomplishments as incumbents. I'm noticing a trend. Belschaft's term was largely undermined by a legislature doing the exact opposite that he wanted. Now that those players are in the executive, Belschaft and others have done a lot to prevent the executive's vision from getting enacted.

Hileville: I think you are taking two completely different issues and trying to establish a pattern.

Mcmasterdonia: Tin foil hat time Tongue

Hileville: With Belschaft, the Assembly went in a different direction on Osiris and Lazarus. With Osiris he wanted to just suspend the Treaty in hopes that the KRO would be revived. The Assembly knew better. He then ruined the Lazarus Treaty which also angered the Assembly.

Unibot: I don't think so - Belschaft argued for a strong executive and had to make serious concessions when he was leader to the legislature. Now that's he out of the executive, he's a strong believer in a very robust legislature and has been successful in shepherding the Assembly.

Hileville: The legislature is very strong and always will be. It doesn't always have to show that though depending on who the Delegate is. Belschaft has always believed that our legislature was strong and has advocated for it whenever he isn't the Delegate. I can't argue with you there.

Unibot: Do you believe that the strength of the legislature, requires a more blank-slate candidate for leader?

Hileville: No. I just believe you have to be willing to stick to your guns and fight to get what you want.

Unibot: Friendship and Cooperation. Magic ponies for all !!

Unibot grins - he sips a glass of water and lets McMasterdonia take the lead for the next question.

Mcmasterdonia: How much of a game-changer will the elections be? Overall, what do you think will happen?

Hileville: Unless there is a huge shakeup on the Cabinet I don't see these elections being that big of a "game-changer". The only area I can see this happening is would be the Army if Southern Bellz doesn't run or runs for a different position. You could open the door to either a more raider or defender leading Minister. But with the General Corps system you won't see all that big of a change.

Unibot: I think these elections could be close and divisive in areas. I don't think they will ultimately bring about systemic changes.

McMasterdonia: I think that unless we see a strong challenge for Delegate, the region overall is going to continue as normal. I am predicting a strong win for Escade unless something major happens at election time.

A staff member stealthily walks onto the stage and passes Unibot several cue cards.

Unibot: So... some audience members have questions for us.

He reads out the first question from the cue card.

Feux wants to know what we think about the future of foreign relations between The Pacific and The South Pacific?

Mcmasterdonia: I think that the relations between the Pacific and the South Pacific were significantly damaged by the attitude of people like Gaspo and Karpathos. There was a lot of disappointment that Krulltopia did not step in and help The South Pacific. At the time, The South Pacific was by far the closest GCR to The Pacific and I do not feel that relations have improved much since then. I think that it would be to the benefit of both regions if they could come to a reasonable agreement again and reconsider a treaty relationship between them.

Overall though, I think this would be a controversial step to take and would be a very interesting debate in the assembly. I think that it would be the right decision, The South Pacific and The Pacific would benefit from strong ties once again, but the South Pacific assembly will need to be convinced that The Pacific will not abandon them again.

Unibot: The South Pacific and The Pacific separating was a major shift - given they've been allies for so long before that. I'm not sure if I see a repair of relations on the horizon.

Hileville: I really don't see that happening. The Assembly has not not forgotten the attitudes during the Milograd coup and shortly after. If they hadn't made Milograd the "public face of the NPO" after the coup things would be different today. There was an overall feeling of betrayal in TSP. TSP without thought had moved nations into to help the Pacific when asked not too long before the coup. I would really hope that the Minister of Foreign Affairs does not waste time on Treaty talks. I don't believe either region is ready for that yet.

Mcmasterdonia: Fair enough. I do agree that it was a feeling of betrayal, and I think that feeling was well justified.

Unibot: I also think on the flip-side though, The Pacific seemed pretty frustrated with how The South Pacific handled the negotiations, Post-Gaspo.

Mcmasterdonia: It would be a very hard thing to sell to the assembly, the Pacific's actions during the coup were unacceptable. But a normalisation and a return to close ties would be beneficial, if the public was sure that such close ties were genuine.

Unibot pulls out the second cue card and breaks out into a smile as he reads it.

Unibot: For our final question of the night, Ramaeus and Tano would like to know why gameplayers often seem stuck up? Or as one of them put it, like a "stick up their ass".

Unibot: I was actually going to write an article about this topic. I think it's a consequence of electoral politics in NationStates. If you compare Gameplay versus Roleplay, their communities are much less... conservative and restrained. When you're concerned about your image you will naturally act a bit stuck up and it's hard to look natural and not wooden on the public stage.

You two would probably have experience in those regards - how to deal with image-making and being informal but not too informal and such.

Hileville: I don't know about that. I mean I can find roleplayers who have that same problem. For me it just depends on who you associate with. But my overall views of roleplayers in NS were damaged by the Milograd coup.

Mcmasterdonia: I think it is a fair assessment that a lot of gameplayers do have a stick up their ass. It is something that is very frustrating when trying to deal with people like that.

Obviously it comes down to arrogance and an inflated feeling of self worth. I think that a lot of the people in gameplay who are like that, would be the opposite in real life. Shy and quiet and afraid to voice their opinion most of the time. People overcompensate in NS and I think that can be shown through that type of behaviour.

I think that most regional leaders today are not stuck up or arrogant. If you are like that it is very hard for you to assess what it is that your regional community needs. You need to get off your high horse and communicate and get to know people. This game is more than just power politics, it is about forming strong bonds and protecting and serving those bonds through your regional service.

Arrogance and being stuck up are counter productive to that goal.

Unibot: Our guest commentator, Hileville, who has been amazing this evening, can have the last word.

Unibot winks.

Hileville: I don't like having the last word. So much pressure. Tongue I really don't want to go further on that question. So I just want to thank you for having me. I look forward to reading these in the future.

Unibot: Thanks Hileville, it was a pleasure sitting down with you and having this extended conversation about a topic that I think all three of us enjoy musing about. Always a class act, you are.

Mcmasterdonia: Thank you Hileville, it was a pleasure and I hope to have you back again in the future.Thanks Unibot for a great show and I look forward to seeing how the election goes. Stay tuned for the next episode of Election Fever.

Until then, Thank you and good night!

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